Like cheap Chinese-made products? Here's yer chickens come home to roost!

http://news.yahoo.com/china-pollution-wafting-across-pacific-blanket-u-study-095940997--finance.html

"Pollution from China travels in large quantities across the Pacific Ocean to the United States, a new study has found, making environmental and health problems unexpected side effects of U.S. demand for cheap China-manufactured goods.

On some days, acid rain-inducing sulfate from burning of fossil fuels in China can account for as much as a quarter of sulfate pollution in the western United States, a team of Chinese and American researchers said in the report published by

the U.S. National Academy of Sciences, a non-profit society of scholars.

Cities like Los Angeles received at least an extra day of smog a year from nitrogen oxide and carbon monoxide from China's export-dependent factories, it said.

"We've outsourced our manufacturing and much of our pollution, but some of it is blowing back across the Pacific to haunt us," co-author Steve Davis, a scientist at University of California Irvine, said."

Well, who coulda seen that coming? Any dang idiot, that's who.

I thought this was known as the reason why North American glaciers were melting - Chinese-imported soot was reducing the snow/ice's reflectivity so it absorbed more sunlight.

Riding a huge wave of irradiated Dolphin carcasses it picked up on the way past Japan, no doubt.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Riding a huge wave of irradiated Dolphin carcasses it picked up on the way past Japan, no doubt.

On a related note to that comment, studies have shown you would have to eat 2.5 tons of Pacific Tuna in a year to even get a hazardous dose of radiation from it......and yet there are soo many left coasters believing a retard standing at a beach with a geiger counter beeping.

I wonder if this arguement is by the same people who believe the man on youtube armed with a Civil Defense geiger counter.

More "proof" that no matter what "we" do doesn't amount to anything when someone else will just replace "us".

In reply to Ranger50:

I can't believe someone actually thought that would work.....

yamaha wrote:

Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote: Riding a huge wave of irradiated Dolphin carcasses it picked up on the way past Japan, no doubt.

On a related note to that comment, studies have shown you would have to eat 2.5 tons of Pacific Tuna in a year to even get a hazardous dose of radiation from it......and yet there are soo many left coasters believing a retard standing at a beach with a geiger counter beeping. I wonder if this arguement is by the same people who believe the man on youtube armed with a Civil Defense geiger counter.

Wouldn't you have an IQ of like 17 at that point from all the mercury?

In reply to Kenny_McCormic:

You would have to be pretty far into the negatives......lol

With all the EPA hoopla about what we are doing over here and climate change, I sit back and wonder what they are doing to try and get the real polluters(China) to get it together. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the EPA or anything, I am one of the few car guys I know that have no problems with there being emissions testing. I don't what to live in a smog E36 M3 hole of a city for health reasons, not climate change. But come on, look at China... those guys are out of control.

I know, it's the United States fault... it's always the United States fault...

Anti-stance wrote: With all the EPA hoopla about what we are doing over here and climate change, I sit back and wonder what they are doing to try and get the real polluters(China) to get it together. Don't get me wrong, I don't hate the EPA or anything, I am one of the few car guys I know that have no problems with there being emissions testing. I don't what to live in a smog E36 M3 hole of a city for health reasons, not climate change. But come on, look at China... those guys are out of control. I know, it's the United States fault... it's always the United States fault...

we are the ones that buy the crap that they produce cheaply because it can't be made there as cheaply partly because of our environmental regulations... then there are the labor laws and such quaint ideas as "respect for human life" that they don't have holding them back.. we are just shifting our dirty factories and maimed employees over to them so we can buy a 60" tv for $300 at WalMart on Black Friday ..

Alaska has been warning for years of a "Yellow Mist" but nobody listened

Take that all you Harbor Freight fanbois.

I thought this forum already decided that environmental controls & regulation were bad and pointless. Look at this wonderful utopia we could be living in instead!

In reply to novaderrik:

I know why they are doing it but what would be the answer? Loosen up regulations and child labor laws here or China tighten it the berkeley up?

pres589 wrote: I thought this forum already decided that environmental controls & regulation were bad and pointless. Look at this wonderful utopia we could be living in instead!

Well, many of the most vocal members here have decided that. The rest of us keep our mouths shut to avoid arguments.

Anti-stance wrote: In reply to novaderrik: I know why they are doing it but what would be the answer? Loosen up regulations and child labor laws here or China tighten it the berkeley up?

I suggest we throw all of our empty plastic bottles into the ocean to create a massive wall you can see from space that blocks Chinese pollution from reaching our shores.

What? We already tried that? E36 M3. Were berkeleyed now.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/opinion/africa-manufacturing-hub/

Perhaps they are going to relocate it to Africa so the East coasters can get some of that yummy pollution.

The good news is that China is taking pollution reduction seriously now that their cities are choking to death on smog that makes the Blade Runner intro look like a nice day.

In reply to trigun7469:

that would be unlikely to get from africa to the east coast thanks to wind patterns. Yay Nature.

yamaha wrote: In reply to trigun7469: that would be unlikely to get from africa to the east coast thanks to wind patterns. Yay Nature.

trigun7469 wrote:

yamaha wrote: In reply to trigun7469: that would be unlikely to get from africa to the east coast thanks to wind patterns. Yay Nature.

yes, the trade winds.. blow from Africa to the gulf. Northern latitudes blow from North America to Europe

pres589 wrote: I thought this forum already decided that environmental controls & regulation were bad and pointless. Look at this wonderful utopia we could be living in instead!

You may be thinking of Speedtalk. Some members there see the lack of pollution in the US and get pissed off because this means we're not making as much money as we could be.

I guess having a bigger TV is more important than not living in a festering polluted E36 M3hole, I guess.

mad_machine wrote:

trigun7469 wrote:

yamaha wrote: In reply to trigun7469: that would be unlikely to get from africa to the east coast thanks to wind patterns. Yay Nature.

yes, the trade winds.. blow from Africa to the gulf. Northern latitudes blow from North America to Europe

Yep, Florida, Cuba, and Mexico get it......not the "East Coasters"

trigun7469 wrote: http://www.cnn.com/2012/06/15/opinion/africa-manufacturing-hub/ Perhaps they are going to relocate it to Africa so the East coasters can get some of that yummy pollution.

Africa is on it...