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Grtechguy
Grtechguy SuperDork
11/1/10 8:47 p.m.

If you can hard plumb it, Do so. PVC is cheap.

just another question, is there heat involved with your setup?

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
11/2/10 6:29 a.m.

Pigeon and Hess, yeah it's considered hazzardous waste in most (if not all) areas. I understand this was done just to prevent restaurants from dumping it in drains or fields back when they had to pay to have it hauled away. And I'm going to go CPVC everywhere except my fill hose (the one that burst incidentally ) and the hose that connects to my collection tank. These need to be flexable. I'll get something stronger for sure like flexable PVC. And yes, there is heat. connected to the centrifuge there is a 110V water heating element. The grease in the upper barrel is ambient temp. The grease comes out of the CF ab about 150°F and slowly runs through about 4' of hose before reaching the lower barrel. The thing here is, I had about 12 gallons in that barrel before I started filtering so I can't see 150° grease, dripping in at the rate of about a gallon an hour heating 12 gallons up on a 50° day. I'm also gong to do a containment area (the one I planned on doing but didn't grrrrr) and mounting my pump differently to loose the 90° fitting at the pump output.

Even after all this, it's worth it.......I think.

Marty!
Marty! Dork
11/2/10 7:13 a.m.

Spills only have to be reported to the DNR if it exceeds 50 gallons or it involves any sort of waterway (at least on WI). The EPA doesn't usually get involved with stuff this small as they got bigger fish to fine, this is more DNR territory.

At work we use a degreaser named Fireball made by the Northwoods company but I have had just as good results with Purple Power.

Posted from my grease truck as this is what my company specializes in and is what pays my bills.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/2/10 11:03 a.m.

not sure on the pressures PCV pipe can handle. It seems rather brittle to me.

I have seen hose similar to what Dr Boost is using, but with braided lines within it.. that might be stronger and more resistant to bursting.

As for your hose burst.. I have never seen a hose go like that. Even high pressure hoses seem to just split and spray.. but the perfect star pattern is odd. You can see where it formed a bubble before bursting by how thin the clear vinyle is around the burst. I would think that should take a LOT of pressure to do that.. more than enough to blow the hose off of the connector first

PeterAK
PeterAK Dork
11/2/10 12:43 p.m.

You might try something like one of these:

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xkk/R-100151485/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xkk/R-202257606/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

I used it to plumb the ballast system in a wakeboard boat. Didn't want to have to worry about blowing out a line that was connected to a hole in the bottom of the boat. Rated for 150 psi or better.

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
11/2/10 5:16 p.m.

Thanks Peter. It looks like the stuff I use in two locations, but from the pic it looks like quite a bit thicker wall. Was that price per foot?

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/2/10 7:08 p.m.

peter.. that is the braided hose I was talking about.. very good stuff

spitfirebill
spitfirebill Dork
11/2/10 7:33 p.m.

Ive never heard of grease being classified as a hazardous waste in any of the SE states we work in. Pretty much everything is regulated from a discharge standpoint. Even stormwater from certain facilities.

Little chance the EPA is going to knock on your door, but the state or county environmental department could. Take a shop vac to it. Use kitty litter to get more. Then use some of the soapy stuff everybody is talking about. But be careful, discharging a lot of soapy water can draw attention too.

PeterAK
PeterAK Dork
11/2/10 7:39 p.m.
DrBoost wrote: Thanks Peter. It looks like the stuff I use in two locations, but from the pic it looks like quite a bit thicker wall. Was that price per foot?

I can't imagine that is per foot. I used about 30 feet of it and don't remember it being expensive. Been a few years now though. The second link is similar product in 10' sections for $9.

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
11/3/10 6:37 a.m.

Thanks Peter, et all.
So far the driveway is about as clean as I'm going to get it, but it's still stained. I tried Dawn last night with some aggressive scrubbing from a stiff-bristled broom and it did nothing. Then I tried the 0° nozzle on my pessure washer and that helps. It'll take forever to clean the whole area with a 0° nozzle. I'm hoping to get the inside of the garage ready to reassemble my setup tonight. I laid down the last (I hope) layer of kitty litter last night. We'll see....

Luke
Luke SuperDork
11/3/10 6:48 a.m.

Not to derail the thread, but, what's the black hatchback?

Cool Mini, also.

MrJoshua
MrJoshua SuperDork
11/3/10 7:20 a.m.
DrBoost wrote: Thanks Peter, et all. So far the driveway is about as clean as I'm going to get it, but it's still stained. I tried Dawn last night with some aggressive scrubbing from a stiff-bristled broom and it did nothing. Then I tried the 0° nozzle on my pessure washer and that helps. It'll take forever to clean the whole area with a 0° nozzle. I'm hoping to get the inside of the garage ready to reassemble my setup tonight. I laid down the last (I hope) layer of kitty litter last night. We'll see....

If you don't mind the driveway/garage looking funky for a while, playground sand will do the trick. I had a tarp covered pile of sand in the driveway for a couple of weeks and it pulled up year old diesel oil stains. They didn't completely go away, but they went from black to almost nothing.

donalson
donalson SuperDork
11/3/10 8:31 a.m.

black car is an omni or horizon... little POS mopar from the mid 80's... but they had one redeeming thing... the 2.2turbo or 2.5 turbo that easily swaps in :)... and they are light weight for the power they make...

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
11/3/10 11:08 a.m.
Luke wrote: Not to derail the thread, but, what's the black hatchback? Cool Mini, also.

Black car is my 2004 challenge car, modded Omni GLH. The mini is my baby, though I think I'll give in to the wife and sell it in the spring Not that I'm whipped but I have 3 kids so we all can't go cruising together, and that's why I got a 4 seater as opposed to a 2 seater (back then, only had one kid. Dang UPS man!).

benzbaron
benzbaron HalfDork
11/3/10 11:25 a.m.

I showed a picture of the blown tube to my old man, he said it was tygon and better plastic tube for your application is a fiber reinfornced plastic hose.

jrw1621
jrw1621 SuperDork
11/3/10 11:30 a.m.

The playground sand sounds like a good idea. Place the sand down soon and in about 3-5 weeks that big orange auger will then move most of the sand about 4 ft away scattering it about the grassy parts, un-noticed.

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
11/4/10 11:42 a.m.
jrw1621 wrote: The playground sand sounds like a good idea. Place the sand down soon and in about 3-5 weeks that big orange auger will then move most of the sand about 4 ft away scattering it about the grassy parts, un-noticed.

Why does that sound like soo much fun?

Rad_Capz
Rad_Capz Reader
11/4/10 2:11 p.m.

If there is a valve that could have been closed expansion of the volume of fluid in the "trapped" section due to a warmer day than when the valve was closed may have raised the pressure enough to cause the blowout. The blown out section of the tubing retaining the blown out look makes me think it cooled rapidly after the fluid was gone.

Even without any valve, if the tank above wasn't vented the whole system would pressurize itself on a warm day or when you turn the heater on. The same effect you've seen occur with sealed gas cans etc. that puff up on warm day

DrBoost
DrBoost Dork
11/4/10 6:18 p.m.
Rad_Capz wrote: If there is a valve that could have been closed expansion of the volume of fluid in the "trapped" section due to a warmer day than when the valve was closed may have raised the pressure enough to cause the blowout. The blown out section of the tubing retaining the blown out look makes me think it cooled rapidly after the fluid was gone. Even without any valve, if the tank above wasn't vented the whole system would pressurize itself on a warm day or when you turn the heater on. The same effect you've seen occur with sealed gas cans etc. that puff up on warm day

Yup, but the tank above was vented. I'm lost,but buying better hose non-the-less

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