Obama's Sequestration hits town July 8th. Even though my world is totally funded, cuts "across the board" go in effect because these knuckleheads can't figure out how to not spend 2% less. I give my funding to someone else.
Stay home every Friday and not get paid.
Wonderful.
Not to flounder this- but it was congress that passed sequestration. And one should look into which representation really wanted it to happen.
What really sucks about it is that nobody seems at all concerned about fixing it. Sure, they'll fix individual things, like the FAA that cause a real issue, but for the rest of everything that got cut, it seems more politically useful to both sides to let it fester until they can use it to campaign on. Jerks.
oldsaw
PowerDork
5/15/13 7:06 a.m.
alfadriver wrote:
Not to flounder this- but it was congress that passed sequestration. And one should look into which representation really wanted it to happen.
Stop it, Eric, please.
Before you bait the hook you should consider who proposed the idea in the first place. With that kind of thinking, one should be giving full accolades to the representation that laid the foundation for what became the ACA.
We have a Debbie downer friend that starts every negative statement with; " Because of Obama......"
Datsun310Guy wrote:
We have a Debbie downer friend that starts every negative statement with; " Because of Obama......"
Because there's no way to be an upper and start every statement with "Because of Obama..."
oldsaw wrote:
alfadriver wrote:
Not to flounder this- but it was congress that passed sequestration. And one should look into which representation really wanted it to happen.
Stop it, Eric, please.
Before you bait the hook you should consider who proposed the idea in the first place. With that kind of thinking, one should be giving full accolades to the representation that laid the foundation for what became the ACA.
No, I lean more towards Eric's view of the world, but there is plenty of fault on both sides. I have to agree, call your congressman
Adrian_Thompson wrote:
oldsaw wrote:
alfadriver wrote:
Not to flounder this- but it was congress that passed sequestration. And one should look into which representation really wanted it to happen.
Stop it, Eric, please.
Before you bait the hook you should consider who proposed the idea in the first place. With that kind of thinking, one should be giving full accolades to the representation that laid the foundation for what became the ACA.
No, I lean more towards Eric's view of the world, but there is plenty of fault on both sides. I have to agree, call your congressman
Mine knows how I feel. I tried to book a White House tour through him before this stupidity went into effect, and now, of course, those tours are closed. Of course, I'm already not happy with him because he's the lead sponsor of CISPA, but that's another matter.....
Duke
PowerDork
5/15/13 8:00 a.m.
Frankly, I think the sequestration is a good idea. Something has to be done about spending, and if fiscal brutality is the only means to make that happen, so be it.
Sorry to you personally, 914Driver . FWIW I took a 20% pay cut a year ago - and I didn't even get to stay home on Fridays; I still worked 40+ hours but only got paid for 32. Private sector job - but you do what you need to do to protect the business and keep it alive.
I would have preferred they act like adults and come to some fiscally responsible agreement that was more targeted, but since everyone is owned by someone, I think across the board is the only way we reduce the size of government, and if that's what it takes, I'm good with it.
I'd really like to offer you pity but all I can muster is some tiny violin music...sorry.
- Screwed Gen. Y 3rd world resident with no future.
DILYSI Dave wrote:
I would have preferred they act like adults and come to some fiscally responsible agreement that was more targeted, but since everyone is owned by someone, I think across the board is the only way we reduce the size of government, and if that's what it takes, I'm good with it.
And that will never happen thanks to the corporate overlords.
I've still failed to see the outrage from the Obama camp on the Monsanto VP being appointed to the FDA, then signing the Monsanto Protection Act.
It's my firm belief that we've already gone well past the tipping the point, both sides are owned by the banks/corporations and there isn't a thing we can do about it.
I'm not sure why I even pay attention to the news anymore to be honest.
I don't blame Obama or the Democrats or the Republicans or the Tea Party...I blame them all. The entire system needs stripped to the studs and rebuilt correctly. (Perhaps use a level this time.)
oldsaw wrote:
alfadriver wrote:
Not to flounder this- but it was congress that passed sequestration. And one should look into which representation really wanted it to happen.
Stop it, Eric, please.
Before you bait the hook you should consider who proposed the idea in the first place. With that kind of thinking, one should be giving full accolades to the representation that laid the foundation for what became the ACA.
Just because the administration suggested it does not put the fault on them- it was supposed to be such a bad idea that nobody would want it, and therefore, a real budget fix would be in place.
But enough of the representation wanted it that they just fought all compromises.
On top of that, the administration didn't pass anything- they sigh what is put on their desk, so it appears that represenation thought it was a good idea, too.
Duke wrote:
Frankly, I think the sequestration is a *good* idea. Something has to be done about spending, and if fiscal brutality is the only means to make that happen, so be it.
Sorry to you personally, **914Driver** . FWIW I took a 20% pay cut a year ago - and I didn't even get to stay home on Fridays; I still worked 40+ hours but only got paid for 32. Private sector job - but you do what you need to do to protect the business and keep it alive.
It would be good if the cuts were forced and be allowed to be allocated. But they were forced across the board, without regard of where one can be cut.
Plus, it does not address income. So instead of slightly increasing the taxes for all, we just cut the income of some to cover it. Not sure how one is better for the economy vs. the other- it's money not flowing in both instances. And THAT is the economy.
Duke
PowerDork
5/15/13 8:54 a.m.
alfadriver wrote:
Duke wrote:
Frankly, I think the sequestration is a *good* idea. Something has to be done about spending, and if fiscal brutality is the only means to make that happen, so be it.
It would be good if the cuts were forced and be allowed to be allocated. But they were forced across the board, without regard of where one can be cut.
So that we can have the legislature continue to argue about it ad nauseum and spend another 4 years without a budget, while they kick the can down the road yet again?
Let me know how that works out for you. If they were willing and able to allocate spending cuts, we wouldn't be in this berkeleying mess to begin with, would we now?
But they've spent 20 years proving they can't allocate spending cuts. So guess what? We do it the hard but simple way.
Personally, I think we need a 20% across the board spending cut PLUS additional, allocated cuts. But of course, that is both pissing on the third rail of reelection by the idiot masses and jumping in front of the train full of corporate lobbyists. So it will never happen.
And when Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act goes into place in January you'll get another cut in your take home pay.
I'm with Duke and agree that we need to cuts, but those cuts need to start on the spending side.
It's going to hurt IF we ever were to get those cuts. The Sequestration is nothing in the overall scheme of things - except of course to the people it affects.
I've had my 50% pay cut already.
Enyar wrote:
What do you do?
I support the Soldier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Rtntp33Jro&NR=1&feature=endscreen
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03J7DcPMlRs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtqwlgEC-bg
pinchvalve wrote:
I don't blame Obama or the Democrats or the Republicans or the Tea Party...I blame them all. The entire system needs stripped to the studs and rebuilt correctly. (Perhaps use a level this time.)
This ^^^
I'm reading a book describing congressional insider trading, and crony capitalism. ( giving your campaign-funding buddies preferential treatment) It's disgusting--- on both sides. Our govt. is riddled with corruption and graft. The book is called "Throw them all Out"--- by Peter Schweizer
We need to gut Washington-- the Legislative and Executive branches of government are broken.
IMHO anyone with fierce loyalty towards either party is living with blinders on. The "Political Class" is on one side---- we are on the other.
In reply to Joe Gearin:
+1 It's emotionally compelling and makes for good basic-cable ratings to attack people and parties, but the real problems are with the underlying systems and institutions.
slefain
UltraDork
5/15/13 9:43 a.m.
I blame the American people for thinking they only have two choices.
We all share some of the problem. If you ran a Burger King and kept getting 20% approval ratings you'd fire everyone. Why don't we hold our elected officials to the same standard.
In reply to slefain:
Google: "single member districts and third parties"