pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
1/19/15 2:19 p.m.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Jk83zZXhBI

This is some nice flying in an airplane not made for aerobatics. External view below

yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
1/19/15 3:03 p.m.

That looked sketchy inside.....

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/19/15 3:29 p.m.

You should see him do that... at night.

XLR99
XLR99 GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/19/15 3:58 p.m.

Wow that looks like a full body workout wrestling that thing around!

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/19/15 4:02 p.m.

In reply to XLR99:

Btw, I just recognized your name. The X-15 rules.

pres589
pres589 UltraDork
1/19/15 5:35 p.m.

Does anyone know what control he keeps reaching for aft of the pedestal? It's like he's pulling on a... parking brake handle?

Honestly it doesn't look like he's killing himself to do these maneuvers. I'm curious what mods he's done to the aircraft. I was actually just reading about these things yesterday and thinking that they look like a pretty cool old bird.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
1/19/15 6:38 p.m.

Flaps?

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/19/15 6:40 p.m.

Just about any airplane can do what it does. These are very tame maneuvers compared to unlimited aerobatics. I'm guessing 3-4gs max.

Don't forget, Tex Johnston barrel rolled Boeing's Dash 80 prototype at the Gold Cup boat races. Seriously, YouTube it.

XLR99
XLR99 GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/19/15 6:42 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: In reply to XLR99: Btw, I just recognized your name. The X-15 rules.

LOL you're the second person in ~10 years that picked up on it.

@Pres589, he's adjusting the elevator trim. He needs to re-trim the airplane with airspeed changes to reduce control forces.

pres589
pres589 UltraDork
1/19/15 7:55 p.m.

Ah, ok. I guess I'm used to much more modern aircraft. I'm also not a pilot, I just deal with aircraft a lot, and I probably should have gotten a license.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
1/19/15 8:24 p.m.

Don't those planes have a serious main spar issues (the reason there are very few around anymore)? I suspect they rebuilt the wing.

http://finalflightthebook.com/Hollywood/MadWorld_clip.AVI

Graefin10
Graefin10 SuperDork
1/19/15 9:45 p.m.

Interesting that he flies inverted with just a lap belt.

pres589
pres589 UltraDork
1/19/15 10:06 p.m.

In reply to aircooled:

Kinda? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Model_18#Spar_problems

Wikipedia so grain of salt required.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/19/15 11:02 p.m.
yamaha
yamaha MegaDork
1/20/15 1:38 a.m.

In reply to Graefin10:

Probably doesn't go negative g's.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/20/15 7:28 a.m.

how about an outside view of those same maneuvers:

Beech 18 acrobatics

Karacticus
Karacticus GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/20/15 7:32 a.m.
pres589 wrote: In reply to aircooled: Kinda? http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beechcraft_Model_18#Spar_problems Wikipedia so grain of salt required.

Yeah, that airplane probably couldn't take off it it had to carry all the Airworthiness Directive paperwork that applied to it.

pilotbraden
pilotbraden SuperDork
1/20/15 9:47 a.m.
pres589 wrote: Does anyone know what control he keeps reaching for aft of the pedestal? It's like he's pulling on a... parking brake handle? Honestly it doesn't look like he's killing himself to do these maneuvers. I'm curious what mods he's done to the aircraft. I was actually just reading about these things yesterday and thinking that they look like a pretty cool old bird.

He is adjusting the pitch trim. The airplane is basically stock, all of them still flying have the spar modification and it is given excellent maintenance.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/20/15 10:22 a.m.

From what I saw on another video where they talked to the crew chief.. that airplane -is- stock. In order not to harm the 900+ CI engines when he goes inverted, he has to keep the G's up so they get oil and fuel (carbed)

BenB
BenB Reader
1/20/15 11:04 a.m.
Appleseed wrote: Just about any airplane can do what it does. These are very tame maneuvers compared to unlimited aerobatics. I'm guessing 3-4gs max. Don't forget, Tex Johnston barrel rolled Boeing's Dash 80 prototype at the Gold Cup boat races. Seriously, YouTube it.

Bob Hoover used to do shows in an Aero Commander and a Sabreliner business jet (lots of videos on Youtube). You're good, as long as you stay within the design envelope (and above the ground). I had a professor in college back in the '80s who had flown with the Four Horsemen, a USAF team in the '50s that flew C-130s (also on Youtube). He said rolls were originally part of the show until a general put a stop to it.

MadScientistMatt
MadScientistMatt UberDork
1/20/15 11:19 a.m.

The same thing from the outside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8EGiQ3x5WE4

The altitude he's at does not leave much room for error with some of those moves!

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/20/15 12:05 p.m.

The 4 Horsemen were beyond badass.

Travis_K
Travis_K UberDork
1/20/15 4:02 p.m.

I have seen that plane in person before, it was fun to watch, and quite loud from the ground too. My dad flew one once many years ago and he said it was a pretty nice plane.

bgkast
bgkast GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
1/20/15 7:23 p.m.

He seems very nonchalant about the whole thing. The ground seemed to be coming up VERY quickly a few times. I would have poo'd!

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