In reply to Appleseed :
Anyone else feeling pretty conflicted about the submarine memes? I'm both entertained and disgusted at the same time.
Scotty Con Queso said:Anyone else feeling pretty conflicted about the submarine memes? I'm both entertained and disgusted at the same time.
I am feeling less conflicted after reading this:
BBC News - Titan sub CEO dismissed safety warnings as 'baseless cries', emails show
In reply to Scotty Con Queso :
I have a lot of *empathy* for the people who perished. I have zero sympathy for them, as they took all known best practices around submersible craft and ignored them, despite having the financial means to ensure the safety of themselves and their passengers.
I doubt you can say that the teenage son fully understood the risks and the shoddy workmanship/maintenance of the submersible. I doubt any of the paying passengers were anywhere near as knowledgeable as the CEO, who IMO is the only one that remotely deserved what they all got. And let us not forget the pain that the families are feeling. It's a tragedy, plain and simple, and to laugh at their expense is, IMO, incredibly callous and dare I say disgusting.
Scotty Con Queso said:Anyone else feeling pretty conflicted about the submarine memes? I'm both entertained and disgusted at the same time.
They do push right to the edge of humor. Cringe-worthy and humorous at the same time. Time makes the ratio more favorable so a lot of these really are too soon.
Most of them are more "Oh E36 M3," than "Haha,' but that's ok too.
Beer Baron said:In reply to Scotty Con Queso :
I feel bad for the 19 y.o. kid who got brought along.
Yeah that's the one that hits the sads for me too. Life lost at 19 is tragic in almost any case.
Scotty Con Queso said:Beer Baron said:In reply to Scotty Con Queso :
I feel bad for the 19 y.o. kid who got brought along.
Yeah that's the one that hits the sads for me too. Life lost at 19 is tragic in almost any case.
If the 19YO wasn't on the sub, I wonder if he'd be at a Blink-182 concert while they rescue is underway?!? (like the stepson of the CEO/founder).
Bad situation all around...but I did hear an interview the other day that highlighted the fact that people "safely" dive to these kinds of depths using non-experimental submersibles all the time. James Cameron did a whole documentary on it. It certainly makes me wonder why they needed to build some experimental non-tested design. I guess $$ was a factor?
Correction, James Cameron built his own sub.
https://www.npr.org/2023/06/23/1183975136/james-cameron-titanic-titan-sub
Scotty Con Queso said:Anyone else feeling pretty conflicted about the submarine memes? I'm both entertained and disgusted at the same time.
Nope. Almost every idiotic death is surrounded by play stupid games win stupid prizes comments. Not sure why this is different. Is there a chart that tells me how wealthy someone has to be to not joke about.
Everybody dies. Some do it rapidly and painlessly in a submersible. Some suffocate in the bottom if a coal mine. Don't particularly care about the dead folks, they are dead and past all their worldly pain.
The spouses and children and siblings are hurting right now, and whether they are ultra rich or dirt poor makes not one bit of difference
Somebody made a comment about the money spent looking for five rich dudes, and poor people wouldn't have gotten that effort.
BullE36M3. https://www.britannica.com/event/Chile-mine-rescue-of-2010
I find myself uncomfortable with the memes about the sub. After a think, here's what I came up with:
As a lover of harsh humor, like Sam Kinison, Dice, etc, I wondered how these memes offended me. Finally, I decided the problem was audience. Even when Dice caused the controversy on SNL, the audience was at least somewhat steeled to it (Midnight on a Saturday night), but MEMES have no audience, and are simply broadcast at the world, lacking a chance to ever hear an opposing opinion. The one way conversation bothers me.
MEME:
I was 19 years old when I got my private pilot's license. I took it very seriously. I knew how easy it was to die. Submarine kid should have done his homework.
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