tester (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to volvoclearinghouse :
The kids born between 45-55 had a different childhood than 56-64. I would argue that it's two separate generations. Serial Movies and radio vs TV. No phone or a party line vs rotary dial phone. Mom at home with the kids vs working moms.... etc a lot changed around the mid 1950s.
I was born in 1975 which makes me a core Gen-Xer. My parents were silent generation kids, born in the 1930s. I tend to have a lot in common with folks a little older than me.
See, another generational touchstone that I strongly correlate with Boomers is the Vietnam War. Boomers were the offspring of WWII vets who told them they had to do their patriotic duty, and the Boomers were like, nah, don't feel like it. So a Boomer would have had to have been at least 18 in 1972 or so.
I guess this whole pointless discussion shows us that the Generation thing, while fun to talk about and a good way of laying smack down on others who aren't in ours, is pretty meaningless. I was born in 77, but back in the 90s I distinctly remember being told I was born after GenX, even though I kinda related to that whole ethos. Now 25 years later and there's people younger than I am who are considered Xers.
So, are we agreeing that there's "Early Boomer" and "Late Boomer", and the switchover point is the beginning of the Tri-Five Chevy years? Early Boomers dodged the draft, and Late Boomers were responsible for Disco.
In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :
Correct, that's why they were Boomer IIs. Two of my sisters were BIs, one of my sisters was a BII, and I'm a Gen Xer (barely), despite my parents being just 16 when The Big One ended.
I'm curious about why Eastside Tim chose to FTFY the chart by simply crossing out Gen X.
I've also heard Gen Y called "echo Boomers" because they were a smaller boom, being the first generation of kids born to the Boomers themselves.
Javelin said:It's that time of year where I complain about having my generation taken away and getting lumped in with another.
When I was in High School, Gen Y was born 1980-1/1/93 (birth of the internet, I explicitly remember this from the textbooks) and Gen Z was 93+ then some jerkface invented the word "Millennial" and then grouped those of us that grew up with corded telephones and dot matrix printers with the kids that never even heard a dial-up modem tone and now I yell at people to get off my lawn.
Yeah, the idea of defined generations is pretty artificial.
I'm in that same category as you, and the best description I've read of my microgeneration that straddles "Gen-X" and "Millenial" is this article about the 'Oregon Trail Generation'. Old enough that our childhood wasn't shaped by cell phones, internet, or social media (like Gen-X), but young enough to be able to adapt to them (like Millenials).
Duke said:In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :
I'm curious about why Eastside Tim chose to FTFY the chart by simply crossing out Gen X.
It's a fairly common trope. A lot of times when there are news reports about the status or opinions of the various generations, Gen X is not included. It skips straight from Boomers to Millennials.
Edit: Also a "forgotten" Gen Xer.
eastsideTim said:Duke said:In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :
I'm curious about why Eastside Tim chose to FTFY the chart by simply crossing out Gen X.
It's a fairly common trope. A lot of times when there are news reports about the status or opinions of the various generations, Gen X is not included. It skips straight from Boomers to Millennials.
Edit: Also a "forgotten" Gen Xer.
Ahh, thank you. I don't bother watching the "news" so I was not aware of that.
Meme tangentially related:
^See: Going out to eat at a place primarily aimed at families. You're eating in the '50s, bud. Oh look, an old jukebox. And there's a picture of a family watching a floor TV. That's a lot of 45 RPM records hanging up there!
eastsideTim said:Duke said:In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :
I'm curious about why Eastside Tim chose to FTFY the chart by simply crossing out Gen X.
It's a fairly common trope. A lot of times when there are news reports about the status or opinions of the various generations, Gen X is not included. It skips straight from Boomers to Millennials.
Edit: Also a "forgotten" Gen Xer.
They don't forget us, they just don't want to talk to us. Gen X isn't very good a sugar-coating things and frequently our statements are full of unprintable cuss words.
I asked my dad (born '47) about the duality of the Boomer existence:
"That’s an interesting thought and something I have always wondered about. Here is what I have always wondered: Why did the baby boomer generation extend so long while other generations are 10 years +-? Gen X, Gen Y, Gen Z are only about 10 years apart but historians categorize Boomers as 1946 to 1965, about 20 years. I never really considered anyone born in 1960 a contemporary. I probably met a few through work as I think back.
All of my Boomer friends were born 1946 to 1954. My cousin was born before WWII and is classified as a “Tweener” . Too young for WWII and too old for Vietnam---even though he was in the Navy during Viet Nam and tells awful stories about recruiting trips to college campuses and being spit on by anti-war flower children. He was a Navy pilot and did not deserve the negativity he encountered.
My side of the Boomers were drafted and sent to war. Some protested the war but most respected their friends and relatives who were serving. We ALL knew somebody over there. My two cousins were in Viet Nam and even though I opposed the war, I felt is disrespectful to them if I protested. The younger boomers were the ones on high school campuses protesting . The people I know who served all came home focused on life and did really, really well in life. My classmates who did ROTC came home as leaders of men and succeeded in business. Since I don’t know anyone born circa 1955-1964 I cannot contrast and answer your question with any certainty. They would have been in grade school when I was in college and I’m sure we had nothing in common.
People entering the workforce in 1970’s entered during a recession or time of higher unemployment. My Class of 1969 all found good jobs. Beginning in 1970, a LOT of guys couldn’t find jobs. My brother graduated in 1972 and his class really had problems finding employment. So if you start from behind, you end up playing catchup for a long time. I have a 10 year head start on someone born in 1957 and 15 year head start on someone born in 1962---and according to historians, someone born in 1962 was still considered a Boomer."
Toyman! said:eastsideTim said:Duke said:In reply to Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) :
I'm curious about why Eastside Tim chose to FTFY the chart by simply crossing out Gen X.
It's a fairly common trope. A lot of times when there are news reports about the status or opinions of the various generations, Gen X is not included. It skips straight from Boomers to Millennials.
Edit: Also a "forgotten" Gen Xer.
They don't forget us, they just don't want to talk to us. Gen X isn't very good a sugar-coating things and frequently our statements are full of unprintable cuss words.
I don't know what the berkeley you're talking about. People always talking E36 M3 and never backing it up... buncha Bob Costas.
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