Meme Thread... no politics

Karacticus said:

ShawnG said:

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Our house was finished in 2005 and has the outlets installed in that orientation.  

Is there a rationale for that orientation?  Reduced chance that a paperclip dropped into a loose plug would bridge a hot and a return? 

In reply to Karacticus :

That's supposed to be a sign to electricians/others that a three prong plug has been put into a two wire house.  At least that's what I was taught.  Might want to check yours with a outlet tester.

In reply to Stampie (FS) :

interesting  

House was built in 2005. It's a three wire house-- I've been into the panel enough to know it too. 

Karacticus said:

ShawnG said:

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Our house was finished in 2005 and has the outlets installed in that orientation.  

Is there a rationale for that orientation?  Reduced chance that a paperclip dropped into a loose plug would bridge a hot and a return? 

Yep.  Anything that can fall between the plug body and the outlet can not touch the two hots.  (hot and neutral? I'm not an electrician)

When my former employer hulled out a building (including the concrete floor) and built it all out to his spec, the electrician put in ALL the 110v outlets oriented ground-leg up.  And also every outlet was numbered so that you knew which breaker it was connected to.

ShawnG said:

1988RedT2 said:

914Driver said:

 

If I didn't unquestioningly believe everything I see on the internet, I'd be tempted to surmise that the photographer took a picture of a dog lying on it's back on a carpet, then inverted said image, giving the appearance of a lighter-than-air dog on the (carpeted) ceiling.

Who has electrical outlets and RJ-45 jacks that close to the ceiling?

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Albeit without the device coverplate...

This actually came up in the continuing education unit I completed a couple of weeks ago.  The NEC specifically says that there is no right way up on an outlet.  There is no upside down, it's literally personal preference. 

I'll dig it up if I have to, but it's not going to be a dank meme.

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Karacticus said:

ShawnG said:

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Our house was finished in 2005 and has the outlets installed in that orientation.  

Is there a rationale for that orientation?  Reduced chance that a paperclip dropped into a loose plug would bridge a hot and a return? 

Yep.  Anything that can fall between the plug body and the outlet can not touch the two hots.  (hot and neutral? I'm not an electrician)

 

When my former employer hulled out a building (including the concrete floor) and built it all out to his spec, the electrician put in ALL the 110v outlets oriented ground-leg up.  And also every outlet was numbered so that you knew which breaker it was connected to.

I write the breaker number on the plug, by the cover plate screw. That way I know the next time. 

I always thought upside down meant GFCI.

There is no standard for right way up.

Standards are important, that's why there are so many of them. 

ShawnG said:

Standards are important, that's why there are so many of them. 

ShawnG said:

Standards are important, that's why there are so many of them. 

You haven't lived until you have watched two government organizations argue about the standards for a set of door locks. We installed a set of sliding doors in a ER. Building code required 6 point hurricane locks, and DHEC required the doors to be unable to lock at all. It took them a while to figure that one out.

Toyman01 (Forum Supporter) said:

ShawnG said:

Standards are important, that's why there are so many of them. 

You haven't lived until you have watched two government organisations argue about the standards for a set of door locks. We installed a set of sliding doors in a ER. Building code required 6 point hurricane locks, and DHEC required the doors to be unable to lock at all. It took them a while to figure that one out.

Let me guess, the locks had to be installed but had to be permanently disabled?

Been cleaning since I got laid off. I'm tired of cleaning.

Of course that lead me to realize..

Of course then after a few..

Then the next morning...

And the subject of cleaning..

Stampie (FS) said:

Karacticus said:

ShawnG said:

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Our house was finished in 2005 and has the outlets installed in that orientation.  

Is there a rationale for that orientation?  Reduced chance that a paperclip dropped into a loose plug would bridge a hot and a return? 

In reply to Karacticus :

That's supposed to be a sign to electricians/others that a three prong plug has been put into a two wire house.  At least that's what I was taught.  Might want to check yours with a outlet tester.

That would be an illegal installation. You're not supposed to install 3 prong plugs on an ungrounded circuit. You're supposed to only install 2 prong plugs (they are still available)

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Karacticus said:

ShawnG said:

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Our house was finished in 2005 and has the outlets installed in that orientation.  

Is there a rationale for that orientation?  Reduced chance that a paperclip dropped into a loose plug would bridge a hot and a return? 

Yep.  Anything that can fall between the plug body and the outlet can not touch the two hots.  (hot and neutral? I'm not an electrician)

 

I've heard that wive's tale. Sounds ridiculous. Ever consider how hard that would be to actually happen in real life?

The only logical argument I have ever heard for installing outlets upside down (ground leg up) is that it creates less strain on the ground wire when a pigtail hangs from the plug for an extended period of time (because the ground wire is on the long sweep of the outside curve of the wire, instead of the pinched side of the inside curve of the wire)

Its still upside down. 

In reply to Bent-Valve (FS) :

Dude we had a mouse in the house.  Spent the last week moving ALL of the furniture and appliances to carefully clean up all of the mouse E36 M3.

Finally caught the berkeleyer.  Expect there are more but haven't seen any signs or any tripped traps.

Nothing like having to worry about Haunta virus in the middle of this Pandemic (I know it's pretty unlikely but the wife was freaking out, so yeah.)

In reply to Stefan (Forum Supporter) :

Get a cat.

Indy-Guy (Forum Jock Strap) said

I just want to know who has carpeted ceilings ?

 

ooohhh, popcorn flooring!  

jgrewe said:

Toyman01 (Forum Supporter) said:

ShawnG said:

Standards are important, that's why there are so many of them. 

You haven't lived until you have watched two government organizations argue about the standards for a set of door locks. We installed a set of sliding doors in a ER. Building code required 6 point hurricane locks, and DHEC required the doors to be unable to lock at all. It took them a while to figure that one out.

Let me guess, the locks had to be installed but had to be permanently disabled?

Sort of. They put disks of aluminum over the key cylinders with double sided tape. It took them two weeks to get to that point. This was right after the impact standards were implemented and I thought the two inspectors were going to come to blows over it. It was like watching two 5 year olds fight over a Tonka truck.

SVreX (Forum Supporter) said:

Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Karacticus said:

ShawnG said:

Strange, it's the first house I've seen where the electrical outlets are installed in the correct orientation.

Our house was finished in 2005 and has the outlets installed in that orientation.  

Is there a rationale for that orientation?  Reduced chance that a paperclip dropped into a loose plug would bridge a hot and a return? 

Yep.  Anything that can fall between the plug body and the outlet can not touch the two hots.  (hot and neutral? I'm not an electrician)

 

 

I've heard that wive's tale. Sounds ridiculous. Ever consider how hard that would be to actually happen in real life?

The only logical argument I have ever heard for installing outlets upside down (ground leg up) is that it creates less strain on the ground wire when a pigtail hangs from the plug for an extended period of time (because the ground wire is on the long sweep of the outside curve of the wire, instead of the pinched side of the inside curve of the wire)

Its still upside down. 

I'd always thought it was pretty ridiculous as well.  Until 10 years ago I got called to my grandparents condo to "fix the electrical".  They had somehow dropped a heavy mirror (with metal frame) behind the dresser in their bedroom.  It hit a plug and sheared off the body of the plug leaving the prongs sticking out of the outlet.  There was much sparking and scorching before the breaker tripped.  Thankfully the place didn't burn down and they didn't electrocute themselves.  

The family all thought I was a wizard when I had it fixed in 10 minutes (most folks don't know how to work around electricity apparently).