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Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón)
Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/2/21 9:39 p.m.
ProDarwin said:
Brett_Murphy (Ex-Patrón) said:

My guess is that there is no God.

I think that's accurate, but unrelated. 

The reason I know it is because I read a lot about video game history. 

I saw a chance to use the bumboclot spider and took it, man!

I knew about kancho because my older kid watched Naruto. I had no idea there was a  "One Thousand Years of Pain!" video game, though.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
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1/3/21 7:44 a.m.

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1/3/21 7:45 a.m.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/3/21 7:45 a.m.

Pete. (l33t FS)
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1/3/21 8:02 a.m.
Toyman01 (Moderately Supportive Dude) said:

I'm pretty sure that the empty toolbox costs way more than $60k.

 

This isn't hyperbole.  MAC was charging $10k for a bottom section like that the weenie is resting his arm on, 25 years ago.  (The Macsimizer!)  Snap-On doesn't even bother listing prices in their flyers anymore, but I did see a blurb about 10 years ago about a Snap-On toolbox/storage rack setup half that size that retailed for $50k.

 

 

Snap-On tool ownership mostly means to me either an old fart, or a useless new guy with less sense than money who thinks that he can make up for his lack of talent by buying "the best".  Kind of like the people who pay $300 for Streamlight flashlights that manage to have less battery life and worse reliability than.... well, anything.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
1/3/21 8:03 a.m.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
1/3/21 8:29 a.m.

In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :

There was a time that I felt a professional mechanic needed to pony up for snapon flat wrenches and chrome sockets, just because of the metallurgy.  There was nothing even close in the 80s.  I think there are lots of good options now, although I still reach for a snapon flat wrench when I really need it to work.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/3/21 8:52 a.m.

In reply to Streetwiseguy :

Oh, granted, the metallurgy means that the wrenches and sockets can be smaller, which is why my Matco ADV (2nd line) sockets do most of my heavy lifting but I still have some MAC lying around for when the clearance matters,.  And when I was gifted a 6-24mm inclusive (including 20mm and 23mm!) Carlisle (NAPA) box wrench set, I noticed that the heads were thicker than even the Blackhawk wrenches that I have, so I took them home for home-garage stuff.

 

I think the latest Snap-On flyer had such gems as $350 for an 8 piece hex socket set.

 

Also, I was deeply annoyed by a service manager who happened to be a member of the local Subaru club, who was a real Pointy-Headed Boss.  I had a Mercedes 280SL (Euro market 6 cylinder 107-chassis.) that I had to do a rear main seal on, and it called for 8 hours labor per Alldata.  Physically impossible to do in-chassis because the crossmember is part of the chassis and the oil pan was everything you could expect from Mercedes.  Also, it was a rope type seal, with a pin in the block, so the crankshaft had to be removed.  PHB said "well, there's a way to do it in 8 hours."  We contacted Mercedes, and were told, by Mercedes' tech representative, that 8 hours was for an engine on a stand and did not include R&R.  PHB, who I should point out had no skin in the game aside from being an obnoxious overbearing prick, doubled down and said the book time is always the total book time, service manuals are never wrong.  At that point I knew he never worked a day in his life.

 

Anyway, one of the other things PHB said was that professionals used Snap-On and only Snap-On, and using anything else was a sign of not being a professional.

 

Again, never worked a day in his life.  Probably waxed his face and used makeup to look extra-smooth.

 

Also, Mercedes was right for only selling the V8 107-chassis in the US. 

ShawnG
ShawnG UltimaDork
1/3/21 9:20 a.m.

And here I thought I just liked decent tools that work...

My box is filled with a mix of Snap-On, Blue-Point, Proto, Craftsman, Channel-Lock, Pittsburgh and a bunch of random stuff that looks handy.

I don't own a Snap-On box and won't, they're way too pricey.

Not every S/O design is the best. I just buy the stuff that works well and feels good in my hand.

BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter)
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1/3/21 9:23 a.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Snap-On tool ownership mostly means to me either an old fart, or a useless new guy with less sense than money who thinks that he can make up for his lack of talent by buying "the best". 

Sir has been peeking into my toolbox? blush

To my defense, I may be somewhat useless and an old fart, but I bought my Snap On tools used .

Wally (Forum Supporter)
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1/3/21 9:25 a.m.

11GTCS
11GTCS HalfDork
1/3/21 9:31 a.m.

In reply to BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) :

You’re pretty productive for an old fart....smiley

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1/3/21 10:06 a.m.

Steve_Jones
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1/3/21 10:09 a.m.

barefootskater (Shaun)
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1/3/21 10:59 a.m.

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1/3/21 10:59 a.m.

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1/3/21 10:59 a.m.

DarkMonohue
DarkMonohue GRM+ Memberand New Reader
1/3/21 11:05 a.m.
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) said:

To my defense, I may be somewhat useless and an old fart, but I bought my Snap On tools used .

Same applies to my Snap-On boxes.  In my experience, the guys who make a big deal of tool brands - either theirs or someone else's - are generally better at talking about tools than using them. I have some favorites and some that I'd like to replace, but I have better things to do than thump my chest over it.

And a meme to keep this more or less on track:

 

nderwater
nderwater UltimaDork
1/3/21 11:58 a.m.

...Thanks, but I'll take a hard pass on any milk coming from the boy cows.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
1/3/21 12:13 p.m.

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Brian(formerly neon4891)
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1/3/21 12:22 p.m.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/3/21 12:45 p.m.
BoxheadTim (Forum Supporter) said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

Snap-On tool ownership mostly means to me either an old fart, or a useless new guy with less sense than money who thinks that he can make up for his lack of talent by buying "the best". 

Sir has been peeking into my toolbox? blush

To my defense, I may be somewhat useless and an old fart, but I bought my Snap On tools used .

I bought 99% of mine new, but they weren't terribly much more expensive than Craftsman at the time, and auto parts store tools were these incredibly cruddy stamped steel made in some third world country you have never heard of kind of tools.

Thus the "old fart" rule.... guys who bought them when it made economic sense to buy them.

I got rid of most of mine when I changed jobs and the Snap-On dealer in the new area responded to broken tools with "Yeah, that happens".  The only ones left are my line wrenches, which I am pretty sure are the best ones ever made.

preach
preach GRM+ Memberand Reader
1/3/21 12:53 p.m.
Wally (Forum Supporter) said:

My inner nerd (and my wife, who brought it up) thinks this should say:

"MY LIGHTSABER

THAT'S NOT"

stanger_mussle (Forum Supporter)
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1/3/21 12:58 p.m.

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