volvoclearinghouse said:Mr. Peabody said:
mtn said:volvoclearinghouse said:In reply to mtn :
Not to derail the meme thread, but Items #1 and #2 are agnostic of the type of propulsion (i.e. a diesel truck could have the same features), #3 Berlin *equals not* Vancouver, and #4 is inconclusive, since life cycle costs are the more relevant metric. Likely the electric truck requires less maintenance, but the diesel won't require a new battery pack at x-years. So, more data is needed.
Also not sure why Russia would have created the meme, except that everything now has to be blamed on either Russia or China. More likely it was just some hick in his basement who had access to 5 minutes worth of googling and has a grudge against Tesla owners.
Bolded part are relevant to the "$300k more than the diesel model". Those sound like $300k features to me.
As to the Russian part, these types of memes often get spread via echochamber type groups. It has been proven time and time again that quite often the origin of these memes (anything that has a general dividing line between the two factions) are from Russians looking to sew dissent among Americans and further divide us.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/
https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/us/russian-social-media-posts.htmlDefinitely could be a redneck who dislikes anything electric though.
Citing rolling stone, wired, and the NY Times isn't likely to "prove" anything, other than that's one's preferred slant of echo chamber.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:In reply to volvoclearinghouse :
#1 and #2 might be dependent on having electric hub motors, so there is no drive shafting required. Being unfamiliar with the vehicle in question, it's a thought.
Fair points, though I think it could be done mechanically - the original Hummer had some sort of clever wheel drive arrangement that allowed a good bit of ground clearance without shafts or U joints, IIRC.
In reply to volvoclearinghouse :
Nothing too clever about it, they had the differentials flipped upside down so the outputs were lower than the driveshafts, and it had portal axles, which conveniently reversed rotation back to normal. It was definitely not height adjustable.
The bottom of the oil pan was quite a bit higher than the floors. The engine sat higher in the vehicle than the driver did.
In reply to Appleseed :
we have friends that are talking about visiting with a camper/trailer in Feb, and we determined that early Spring is really the only time of the year we'd reccomend anyone visit. The remainder of the year is smoke/imminent fire threat, or snow threat.
Just a reminder, in case your kids won't stop singing that song...
volvoclearinghouse said:Citing rolling stone, wired, and the NY Times isn't likely to "prove" anything, other than that's one's preferred slant of echo chamber.
https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2018/0221/Before-Russia-s-troll-farm-turned-to-US-it-had-a-more-domestic-focus
https://www.economist.com/briefing/2018/02/22/inside-the-internet-research-agencys-lie-machine
https://thefederalist.com/2019/04/18/the-bombshell-in-the-mueller-report-is-russias-social-media-campaign/
https://www.npr.org/2020/03/05/812497423/report-russian-election-trolling-becoming-subtler-tougher-to-detect
https://nypost.com/2018/07/13/russian-troll-farm-made-twitter-accounts-for-fake-newspapers-to-spread-real-news/
https://www.foxnews.com/tech/shocking-scale-of-russias-sinister-social-media-campaign-against-us-revealed
If you see a meme like that, you should start to question the source of it, and their motives. Whether domestic or not, it is literally designed to sow doubt without creating a beneficial conversation. And it happens on both sides. This twitter account was proven to be from of Russian origin:
volvoclearinghouse said:mtn said:volvoclearinghouse said:In reply to mtn :
Not to derail the meme thread, but Items #1 and #2 are agnostic of the type of propulsion (i.e. a diesel truck could have the same features), #3 Berlin *equals not* Vancouver, and #4 is inconclusive, since life cycle costs are the more relevant metric. Likely the electric truck requires less maintenance, but the diesel won't require a new battery pack at x-years. So, more data is needed.
Also not sure why Russia would have created the meme, except that everything now has to be blamed on either Russia or China. More likely it was just some hick in his basement who had access to 5 minutes worth of googling and has a grudge against Tesla owners.
Bolded part are relevant to the "$300k more than the diesel model". Those sound like $300k features to me.
As to the Russian part, these types of memes often get spread via echochamber type groups. It has been proven time and time again that quite often the origin of these memes (anything that has a general dividing line between the two factions) are from Russians looking to sew dissent among Americans and further divide us.
https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/russia-troll-2020-election-interference-twitter-916482/
https://www.wired.com/story/russia-ira-propaganda-senate-report/
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/12/17/us/russian-social-media-posts.htmlDefinitely could be a redneck who dislikes anything electric though.
Citing rolling stone, wired, and the NY Times isn't likely to "prove" anything, other than that's one's preferred slant of echo chamber.
And the meme cited...?
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to Appleseed :
Eye of the beholder and all that.
OK, more bizarre derailing: Almond milk first seems to have caught on in Europe in the Middle Ages when wealthy Catholics wanted something they could use during Lent when the church wouldn't allow milk.
Although that might make the meme even funnier if you read it as God thinking "That really isn't how I wanted them to handle this..."
In reply to tuna55 :
Nothing, because it was a meme. It was just intended to be funny. I didn't particularly find it funny, so I didn't upvote it, but apparently others found it so profoundly unfunny that it was worthy of further unfunny comment. Which admittedly drew me in, further derailing the meme thread. Apparently electric vehicles are somehow "political", and pointing out their flaws is worthy of derision. We laugh if someone posts a meme about rotaries, or superchargers, or whatever other forms of propulsion and induction, but somehow poking fun at electricity is verboten. There's a similar double standard with regard to memes about The Plague - for example, I noticed the meme I posed about "Omicron - Moronic" was repeatedly 'up' and 'down' voted - and The Shots & Masking - memes making fun at people who oppose the shots/masking are fine, but memes making fun of those who support them are not.
Perhaps we should change the thread title to "Meme thread - no politics or anything derogatory about electric vehicles, poking fun at The Virus, or Covid vaccines and masks which are proven to be safe and effective"?
Hopefully no one gets their knickers in a twist over this meme:
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