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ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
7/18/22 10:04 p.m.

In reply to Appleseed :

Rough sawn lumber is sold by the quarter.

1.25" lumber is sold as 5/4 lumber. Ask for 1-1/4 and they will know you're a noob.

It's from the old days when sawyers were generally unskilled. The sawmill has stops every quarter inch and it's easier to tell the guy five quarters than to make him math.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy MegaDork
7/18/22 10:11 p.m.

In reply to ShawnG :

I'm kinda OK with the American 5/4 lumber, but to still talk about an American three penny nail just irritates me.

A 1 1/2 by 3 1/2 inch 2by 4 is another thing...

Datsun310Guy
Datsun310Guy MegaDork
7/18/22 10:29 p.m.

Industrial Rubber rolls are sold by the roll or the linear foot or the square foot or the square yard and at one time sold by the pound.

Good luck with that. 

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/18/22 11:01 p.m.

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

Metals are also sold by the pound, sort of.

Gauge is how many sheets are required for a square foot of the material to weigh a certain amount.  At least, originally it was...

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
7/18/22 11:05 p.m.
Beer Baron said:

Are you making a joke because we're music nerds?

Just making a joke because you guys are music nerds.  

Do I understand what 5/4 time means?  No.  Feel free to elaborate, but also I know how to Google it :) 

David Elfering
David Elfering GRM+ Memberand Reader
7/18/22 11:19 p.m.

Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos)
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/18/22 11:19 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:  A fifth third is either like Mostly Harmless, the fifth book of a trilogy, or is is 1/5th of 1/3rd...

Or a really crappy bank that didn't accept online payments well past 2014.

Since it came up elsewhere, I love this meme.

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
7/19/22 5:50 a.m.
Brett_Murphy (Agent of Chaos) said:
Pete. (l33t FS) said:  A fifth third is either like Mostly Harmless, the fifth book of a trilogy, or is is 1/5th of 1/3rd...

Or a really crappy bank that didn't accept online payments well past 2014.

Since it came up elsewhere, I love this meme.

Because of this I went looking for the picture from TCL a guy telling about his battery spontaneously catching fire and burning his car to the ground when there was a wrench laying obviously across the terminals; alas, I can't find it.

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
7/19/22 6:36 a.m.

Beer Baron
Beer Baron MegaDork
7/19/22 7:27 a.m.
ProDarwin said:

Do I understand what 5/4 time means?  No.  Feel free to elaborate, but also I know how to Google it :) 

Time signatures are - how many beats per measure, and how long of a note counts as a beat.

The overwhelming majority of western popular music is 4/4 time - 4 quarter notes per measure. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 * 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - For an easy example, look at "Twinkle Twinkle Little Star".

3/4 time is a basic waltz rhythm. 3 quarter notes per measure 1 - 2 - 3 * 2 - 2 - 3 -

5/4 is five quarter notes per measure. 1 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 * 2 - 2 - 3 - 4 - 5 -. It's much less intuitive and fairly uncommon. People like counting in 2's and 3's. However, it has a natural swing to it. It's complex enough to trip you up at first blush, but simple enough to fall into a groove.

6/8 is 6 eighth notes per measure. Oddly, this is probably about as common as 3/4 time in western music. Super common is blues rock. First blush would make you think it should sound like 3/4 but it really doesn't. The stresses are different. Instead, it feels like a really swung 2/2 - it makes you want to sway slowly but then there's an extra rhythmic texture underneath.

Then you look get really weird E36 M3 when you get into prog rock. Rush does some crazy stuff. Tool is just absurb.

RushDude2112 (@BooksR4Tourists) / Twitter

Dusterbd13-michael
Dusterbd13-michael MegaDork
7/19/22 8:12 a.m.

Duke
Duke MegaDork
7/19/22 10:28 a.m.

In reply to Beer Baron :

Bill Bruford is not only well known for using obscure time signatures, but for varying them from take to take or performance to performance.

There's a great clip with Robert Fripp complaining about Bruford's, ummm, flexible drumming, which cuts to Bruford saying "If he can't keep time then he shouldn't be in this berking band."

In Their Own Words King Crimson 1995

NickD
NickD MegaDork
7/19/22 10:30 a.m.

Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/19/22 10:34 a.m.

In reply to Beer Baron :

SaltyDog
SaltyDog Dork
7/19/22 12:01 p.m.

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
7/19/22 12:31 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to Datsun310Guy :

Metals are also sold by the pound, sort of.

Gauge is how many sheets are required for a square foot of the material to weigh a certain amount.  At least, originally it was...

The More You Know GIFs | Tenor

Floating Doc (Forum Supporter)
Floating Doc (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
7/19/22 1:34 p.m.

So, we've discussed time signature. For today's lesson, we're going to discuss dynamics.

SkinnyG (Forum Supporter)
SkinnyG (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
7/19/22 5:05 p.m.
Appleseed
Appleseed MegaDork
7/19/22 5:32 p.m.

Dynamics ,  eh?

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/19/22 7:11 p.m.
Duke said:

In reply to Beer Baron :

Bill Bruford is not only well known for using obscure time signatures, but for varying them from take to take or performance to performance.

There's a great clip with Robert Fripp complaining about Bruford's, ummm, flexible drumming, which cuts to Bruford saying "If he can't keep time then he shouldn't be in this berking band."

In Their Own Words King Crimson 1995

You know you're in for experimental music when there are TWO Chapman sticks in the band.

Sting did an album where almost everything was in an odd metre. Ten Summoners Tales, I think. But that's nothing. What's the best selling album with weird time signatures? One of the best selling albums of all time - Dark Side of the Moon. Money is in 7/4. Sometimes.

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
7/19/22 9:18 p.m.

In reply to Beer Baron :

TL;DW: Part of Master of Puppets is in something like 13/16 or 21/32 or something, because it just felt good.  Or maybe an editing mistake.  Or both.

ShawnG
ShawnG MegaDork
7/19/22 11:37 p.m.

Appleseed
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7/20/22 2:48 a.m.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
7/20/22 8:50 a.m.

NickD
NickD MegaDork
7/20/22 9:41 a.m.

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