BoxheadTim said:In reply to mtn :
That's because they'd have a revolution on their hands if there was no fresh bread.
Not sure if this is a joke or serious post.
BoxheadTim said:In reply to mtn :
That's because they'd have a revolution on their hands if there was no fresh bread.
Not sure if this is a joke or serious post.
secretariata (Forum Supporter) said:BoxheadTim said:In reply to mtn :
That's because they'd have a revolution on their hands if there was no fresh bread.
Ah, let them eat cake. They'll get over it.
Indeed, that worked spectacularly well the last time.
Mr_Asa said:BoxheadTim said:In reply to mtn :
That's because they'd have a revolution on their hands if there was no fresh bread.
Not sure if this is a joke or serious post.
Yes 
I'm in the middle of this operation where we're deploying this incredibly complicated system for a customer. Despite having gone over all of the pre-install prep checklists and data-gathering forms several times, they keep wanting to change things. Most recently, when I asked them for about two dozen DNS entries to be defined they gave me all of the entries and said it would be created in time for the installation. Yesterday, my installer tells me that none of the names will resolve. And this morning, the customer asks if we can just change the domain that we're using. The domain that is more or less baked into all of the instances of Apache. The domain that will essentially require my installer to do a complete re-install of the application stack in order to change. Sure, the application is poorly-designed and should be able to pivot, but that's why we had hours upon hours of meetings and design sessions to ensure that everything was right before we started. To paraphrase von Moltke: "Your Majesty, it cannot be done! The deployment of overly-complex, shoddily-written applications cannot be improvised!"
In reply to NY Nick :
I looked at a 2003 40' DP Monaco that I thought was priced right at $48k. In the pictures, it looked decent. When we got there, the entire interior was covered with a fine layer of mold due to a roof leak that the owner never bothered to repair. WTF?
I ended up paying a little more than I wanted but it was worth it to find a motorhome with a box full of receipts for maintenance and repairs instead of a motorhome full of things that needed to be fixed.
As to the wood grain vs paint. My preference is wood. I find the new tendency to paint everything depressing. I like the warmth of wood. The industry is going that way because it's cheaper to paint MDF than it is to build wood cabinets. It's cheaper to paint existing than it is to replace with wood cabinets. The EndOver has quality cabinetry. I won't paint it. While it might look a little dated to some, that's OK. I'm a little dated myself.
In reply to Toyman! :
I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.
Serious question, though... With the two couches there, do they both convert to beds? If so, how much space is there between them? That's a nice-looking coach and kind of what I actually want, but we need to be able to sleep at least 5.
Stopped at Target by work this morning to see if they had either of the two new Hot Wheels of the GR Corolla. Walking back to the car I thought man that tire looks low. It was. Filling it up at work it's almost flat, coworker pointed to what looks like a nail head in the tread (probably fixable). On the RE71s I need for Saturday.
And they didn't have either Hot Wheel.
In reply to Toyman! :
On our most recent trip, we talked to a couple of owners of vintage trailers, and both mentioned leaks. They tried to patch them up via various methods.... Even though it's really not hard at all to do it right. Don't understand why people have things they value so much but "patch" up repairs instead of really fixing it.
Some things are expensive, I get that. But leaks should not be- unless there are rust holes in the metal roof, the failure is the butyl tape- which is pretty easy to replace. Messy, but easy.
In reply to Toyman! :
There's some good value in older, high-end motorhomes (Monaco, Beaver, Holiday Rambler). They were built to a high standard and were expensive new. No MDF, no papered cardboard... real wood, real tile, good materials on the furniture, etc. They are certainly a bit dated style wise, but are comfortable, and nowhere near as bad as the 'Vegas Casino' interiors on something like a 1990s Prevost.
We also probably paid a little too much for our 2004 HR, but you're going to pay a premium for an RV that's been well maintained and stored indoors.
In reply to wae :
Ours is a similar floorplan, and one couch is a fold out bed. With the slide out, you can get by with the bed folded out, but it's narrow. If you can put 2 on the fold out, and one on the couch, and 2 in the bedroom, you could sleep 5.
In reply to wae :
The leather couch is a queen sleeper. The couch on the left is a jackknife. Honestly, they aren't usable at the same time because you can't walk between them with the jackknife folded flat. It's also too short for an adult. If we need to sleep 5, I put a folding cot next to the table.
Me and Bob have been working our asses off for two months preparing for this weekend's events, a TT scramble on Saturday, a hare scramble on Sunday. All the rain we got in spring coupled with the crazy heat we've had the last month and everything is overgrown on the property. At least the heat helped dry things up, but in the last week we've had about three months worth of rain and I'm getting ready right now to walk the 20km long course with a shovel to try and create some drainage. It's bad enough that they scheduled two off road events in one weekend, the weather isn't making it any easier
Jerry said:Stopped at Target by work this morning to see if they had either of the two new Hot Wheels of the GR Corolla. Walking back to the car I thought man that tire looks low. It was. Filling it up at work it's almost flat, coworker pointed to what looks like a nail head in the tread (probably fixable). On the RE71s I need for Saturday.
And they didn't have either Hot Wheel.
Shop up the street pulled the nail, went to patch it and said the inside was full of dust from driving on it low. Awesome, at least I have an actual spare to get home.
In reply to alfadriver :
That baffles me. Roof leaks aren't that hard to deal with. $10 and a couple of hours will fix a roof leak if you do it before the roof rots out. My father's 5th wheel is 28 years old with well over 100k miles on it, and still looks almost brand new. A little TLC goes a long way.
The EndOver has a one-piece fiberglass roof. I still climb up there at least once a year to lay eyes on every bit of sealant and replace anything that looks questionable.
Walking extremely painful today-- wore thin socks yesterday and found out how much coosh I was counting on from them.
Right hand/wrist is also running a siren from some screw/nut driver work replacing seat rollers on the front seats for the airplane over the weekend.
Sure is nice have rollers that roll instead of slide though-- even at a parts kit cost of $140/seat.
In reply to Toyman! :
I've halfway joked that I would enjoy having one of those and traveling around the country when we retire, but The Dancer would likely never go for it. We've not ever been out tent camping, it's just not something that she really has any interest in (and would likely be a challenge with our modest-sized dog), and as I've gotten older the idea of sleeping on an inch of foam on hard ground has lost its appeal so I've slowly whittled down the camping I've had for a while and really only have a few things besides what is a permanent part of our BOBs. She's never seen the appeal of an RV or large trailer- both my parents and her dad & stepmom have larger trailers but she's not really ever wanted one.
In reply to stanger_mussle (Supported by GRM undergarments) :
My parents bought a 22' travel trailer a ways back (they for a short while had an 18' or something but quickly traded up) because they head out to rock hunt & gold prospect several hours from where they live several times a year and wanted a more cost-effective way to do that. And then earlier this year they ended up buying a single-wide mobile home in the town where they spend the most time so they don't have to always haul the trailer back and forth (but to my knowledge don't have any plans to sell the trailer).
In reply to Ashyukun (Robert) :
One of the biggest draws to the motorhome for my wife is that it allows us to take the dogs with us whenever we travel. We can go up to Indy for Gencon, stay about 10 minutes outside of town at a nice RV park, park in the garage across the street from the convention center, and it costs us less than a hotel that would require a 15-20 minute walk. The dogs can come with us and hang out in the AC while we're gone, and in the evening we've got a nice place to go play games, fix a better meal than we can buy, and the fridge has been keeping the beer cold all day. When we go up to see the in-laws, we can bring the dogs with us and then have a more comfortable place to sleep and we can work remotely during the day in the motorhome while the kids get to visit with their grandparents. For my wife, being able to travel with the dogs is the primary motivator. Even with the Merc, when you've got a 130lb dog and a 75lb dog plus 5 people-sized people and a cat, just trying to get everyone there is damned uncomfortable!
In reply to Ashyukun (Robert) :
I grew up camping and started camping with my kids before the eldest turned 1. Even with the EndOver sitting at the house, I still tent camp several times per year. My kids, grandkids, and I enjoy it. We roll out Friday afternoon to a campground in the area we want to explore. Wander around the dirt roads around the state for the day and camp Saturday night. More back roads on Sunday on the way home. It's a fun weekend.
I've covered all of the SC Adventure Route. Most states have one and it's a good way to get off the beaten path and see the sights.
In reply to wae :
That would definitely be a selling point- we pretty much never go anywhere without The Bat, and didn't go anywhere without The Dog before her. I think it's more not wanting to spend so much time driving around and staying different places than not liking motorhomes/RVs and such- but we'll see what happens in the next 20 years or so. My parents got their big travel trailer when they were both just north of 70, so I don't know exactly what retirement will bring for us. They've always been more into going out and camping than The Dancer has, though she loves going out and staying in cabins in different places where we can hike, so we'll see what happens. By that time, self-driving RVs may be a thing which would potentially mean it could be driving between places while we slept like a land-based cruise ship (or, yes, a sleeper train) which would have a good bit of appeal.
I like the idea of an RV for the simple point of being able to travel with a smaller, more enjoyable vehicle- I'd probably want to tow the E46 convertible behind an RV so we could drive that around wherever we were going, since we can never take it anyplace we go since we need more cargo space than it has.
I can't ignore the math. Buy an older motor home, maybe, maybe see 10mpg. Gas is, or can soon be, $5 per gallon. That's 50 cents a mile. 20 miles from home, $10. 200 miles from home, $100.
I might be slightly pessimistic with the numbers, but not by a very large margin.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
RV versus fuel efficient car and a hotel room almost always works out in favor of the hotel room, at least financially. Unless:
I'd like a Class B RV (Van based) for travel, but cannot justify it from a cost standpoint. May end up with a minivan or SUV I can kit out for a few days of boondocking, then stay in a hotel a night or two to have access to indoor plumbing and reliable electricity.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
I don't think you can just figure it by the math. While RVs aren't for everyone, there is more to it than the money.
Does that math include eating your own food instead of a hotel breakfast and 2 meals a day at restaurants? How about the value of sleeping in your own bed or not hauling suitcases in and out of strange buildings or the value of getting away from people? Or maybe the value of staying the night at the track instead of hauling your tired crew back to a hotel at the end of the day.
I spent the last week here. No screaming kids, no neighbors. That to me is worth ten times more than the $150 in fuel it took to drive it there.
This summer is going to be exhausting. We just finished up Show #1 last weekend, and just got back from spending the few days following it with most of the in-laws out at the cabin 'relaxing' following the show (I love The Dancer's sister and her family, but it's always far more relaxing out at the cabin when it's just the two of us and The Bat). Rehearsals for Show #2 (this summer is the 10th anniversary of the non-profit) start on Saturday, though I was able to at least wrangle hauling all of the stuff from our garage out to the rehearsal space when we still had the U-Haul from the show last weekend, and the show itself is in just under a month. Literally the weekend after that (with 1 day between when the MIL should be leaving and when my parents will arrive) is the big local art fair that my Mom has had a booth at for the last few years, so my parents will be here at least over the weekend and I believe my Dad may be staying here for the week while my Mom flies to Maine for an Art Camp. A week or two after the art fair, we will be flying to overseas for a cruise for our anniversary- so it's going to be like 2 months until things really settle down to a more 'normal'- but also at that point school will be going again and The Dancer will be swamped with outreach & teaching at the dance studio.
Minor rant: We've been using DoorDash a lot over the last few months and never had any issues. Now the last 2 orders that we got were both delivered without the drinks that they were supposed to have- and both times it looks like it was an error on the driver that was likely caused by a combination of not reading the order when picking it up and not speaking English very well. C'mon people- when I pick up an order we've made, I look and make sure that everything on the receipt is there. If you're getting paid to pick up the food, you should absolutely be doing the same thing- especially since I know that DD & similar companies penalize delivery drivers for incorrect orders. And if the app doesn't translate order lists into the language that the driver is using the app in (since their app clearly states that when you send a message to someone what languate it will translate the message into if it's not going to be read in English), then their programmers need to fix that oversight.
Last week USPS delivered my package to a local apartment complex instead of my house. Completely different address, nowhere near my actual house. Package was long gone by the time the postal worker went back to find it. Great.
So I learned my lesson used FedEx to deliver my next package. Except they delivered to to who the berkeley knows where and sent me a cheery "packaged delivered!" photo....of some townhouse nowhere around here. berkeley me.
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