I know you guys dont really care for Nascar, but this should make the cars look alittle more interesting than Fusions and Chargers running around in circles...
http://www.autoblog.com/2009/06/15/breaking-ford-mustang-dodge-challenger-reportedly-headed-to-nascar-in-2010
Riiiiiiight. Because the current cars look anything like the real ones. Two boxes will not translate well to NASCRAP's rules setup. It'll be a decal package, wooooo! 
It will open up the ability for NASCAR to do this:
Say whaaat??? I'll believe it when I see it...
Actually, they are for the Nationwide series (used to be the Busch Cup), rather than the Sprint Cup, and the bodies are being done to look more like the street cars.
Remember, NASCAR has way more classes of racing than teh top Grand national Sprint cars usually televised.
The Nationwide series cars have a 5" shorter wheelbase than the Sprint cup cars even now, and are lighter. They are also the only NASCAR cars to use rain tires so far (at a road race, no less). IIRC, the Busch cars used to use V6s and compact car bodies, so this is really not much of a change from tradition in this class.
Busch cars did run V6s previously but now they are lower CR V8s like the Cup and Truck engines.
Here's what NASCAR should do engine wise:
Nationwide: V6's Trucks: Diesel I-6 or V8 Sprint: V8's
That would make things a bit more interesting and consumer relevant...well, maybe 
The Nascar V6 was invented to sell more engine hoists. We ran a Buick for years, it was the fastest of the eligible motors, but if you looked at it funny it spit the crank out of the oilpan. One of the reason the switched back to the V8 was to save money. It can run almost all season rather than needing to be rebuilt every 3-400 laps.
I heard quite some time ago that they were thinking of doing this. Now I wonder if Dodge will follow through due to recent cutbacks. There hasn't been a front running Dodge in the Nationwide series in a long time. Maybe they will get Penske to run.
P71 wrote: Riiiiiiight. Because the current cars look anything like the real ones. Two boxes will *not* translate well to NASCRAP's rules setup. It'll be a decal package, wooooo!
Actually, they tested some Nationwide COT's last year, and they were more than just decal kits. The Challenger nose was actually kind of impressive in its accuracy.
iceracer wrote: I heard quite some time ago that they were thinking of doing this. Now I wonder if Dodge will follow through due to recent cutbacks. There hasn't been a front running Dodge in the Nationwide series in a long time. Maybe they will get Penske to run.
Thanks to NASCAR's stupid exclusive sponsor rules, Roger is running his first full Nationwide season this year with last years ARCA champion Justin Allgaier. He had to put Verizon on something after Alltel was bought out.
bamalama wrote:P71 wrote: Riiiiiiight. Because the current cars look anything like the real ones. Two boxes will *not* translate well to NASCRAP's rules setup. It'll be a decal package, wooooo!Actually, they tested some Nationwide COT's last year, and they were more than just decal kits. The Challenger nose was actually kind of impressive in its accuracy.
hmmm... that doesnt look half bad...
Ah... now that you mention it, I do remember reading something about going to the pony car bodies in the Nationwide series... my bad.
The different engine idea would be neat... but as Wally mentioned, expensive... much cheaper to have all three series running basically the same engine.
They have been tlking about doing this for some time now. At least with the Nationwide guys. But when see it happen I'll beleve it.
Chris_V wrote: They are also the only NASCAR cars to use rain tires so far (at a road race, no less).
I watched that race. It was pretty awesome. They put windshield wipers on the cars too (each car had one wiper). Usually, it stuck straight up on the straights rendering it useless, but it was awesome racing. I forget who it was, but one guy kept putting like 10 second leads on everybody since he was a road-racer and he had rain experience.
confuZion3 wrote:Chris_V wrote: They are also the only NASCAR cars to use rain tires so far (at a road race, no less).I watched that race. It was pretty awesome. They put windshield wipers on the cars too (each car had one wiper). Usually, it stuck straight up on the straights rendering it useless, but it was awesome racing. I forget who it was, but one guy kept putting like 10 second leads on everybody since he was a road-racer and he had rain experience.
That was Marcos Ambrose. He overcooked it either into a turn, or pit road (I forget which one) and lost the lead to Ron Fellows.
Interesting. IIRC, also the Goody's Dash cars ran 4 cyl. and were modeled after domestic compacts like the Pontiac Sunfire.
All they'd have to do is copy this popular form of European racing. But, they won't.
I think building ex rally cars into NASCAR Light cars would be fun.
FWD, RWD, AWD all running at the same time with weight and power penalties to equalize the field. Allow all manufacturers including the new Chinese cars. Use stock OE engines combined with the reinforced, caged, slick or rain R compound race tires on a car with a loud exhaust.
John Brown wrote: I think building ex rally cars into NASCAR Light cars would be fun. FWD, RWD, AWD all running at the same time with weight and power penalties to equalize the field. Allow all manufacturers including the new Chinese cars. Use stock OE engines combined with the reinforced, caged, slick or rain R compound race tires on a car with a loud exhaust.
It would be useful as well because it would help to highlight the weak points on the cars therefore improving the production run if those changes are incorporated into the stock vehicle on showroom floors.
The way it works now the cars are purpose built. The only benefit the driving customer will ever see are improved aerodynamics. Now, I doubt that little bit of benefit is true.
Who's to argue? The France family is making money hand over fist. That's the goal right?
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