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DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
8/13/12 9:54 a.m.

I can't wait for next weekend for the Busch series racing at Montreal! That's an awesome track with those cars on it

iceracer
iceracer UltraDork
8/13/12 10:34 a.m.

Humpy Wheeler wanted to run qualifying on the dirt track at Charlotte, then run the race on the paved oval. The drivers liked the idea but NASCAR didn't.

Strike_Zero
Strike_Zero Dork
8/13/12 11:12 a.m.

That race was all around awesome . . . The last lap was sensational!!

Smoke coming from the back TWICE for a top 20, Johnson and Hornish being "invisible" the whole race with a great finish, Kyle getting snookered . . . . and the LAST LAP!! Those guys driving the wheels off of used up race cars on a oiled down track . . . . I was yelling at the TV!!

stafford1500
stafford1500 GRM+ Memberand New Reader
8/13/12 1:13 p.m.
Ian F wrote: They did do some rain-spec testing some years ago, but the reality was the cars simply needed too many modifications (wipers, rain lights, learning how the tires would work, etc) simply on the chance they might have to run in the rain. Plus, I'm sure Goodyear was thrilled with the idea of having to bring along a crap-ton of rain tires they'd probably end up taking back and tossing. ...

The Nationwide series did run in the rain in Motreal on two occasions. The first time was on the rain tires that had been sitting for th better part of a decade. The next year there was a new rain tire. Some of the teams made the mistake of changing tires in the rain even though the track was still wet and the tires still had sharp tread blocks...
The other complication was that NASCAR tried to mandate the pit stops for wets the first year. The second year the conditions were a little more variable and the teams got to decide for themselves, but cautions pretty much set the scene for wets or drys.
On the extra equipment they needed, the wipers were almost no use and most of the teams need to look at production cars to figure out how to make a useable defogger system.

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
8/13/12 3:44 p.m.
Ian F wrote:
Kenny_McCormic wrote: Do they ever run in the rain?
They did do some rain-spec testing some years ago, but the reality was the cars simply needed too many modifications (wipers, rain lights, learning how the tires would work, etc) simply on the chance they might have to run in the rain. Plus, I'm sure Goodyear was thrilled with the idea of having to bring along a crap-ton of rain tires they'd probably end up taking back and tossing. The large teams with deep pockets for testing could probably deal with it, but the smaller teams would be at a huge disadvantage. Most of those teams are running old cast-off road course spec cars anyway. It's not uncommon for road course cars to be many seasons old, just updated with new sheet metal.

for about a decade starting in the late 90's, Goodyear hauled rain tires to the road courses and NASCAR made the teams install wipers and lights in the cars, but it never rained.. they decided that the rain tires weren't any good after sitting around for a decade, and they just gave up on the rain tire thing. i don't get why they don't just make them run treaded tires at the road courses- every lap would look like the last lap yesterday without the need to have a small team spread oil all over the track..

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/13/12 8:42 p.m.
novaderrik wrote: for about a decade starting in the late 90's, Goodyear hauled rain tires to the road courses and NASCAR made the teams install wipers and lights in the cars, but it never rained.. they decided that the rain tires weren't any good after sitting around for a decade, and they just gave up on the rain tire thing. i don't get why they don't just make them run treaded tires at the road courses- every lap would look like the last lap yesterday without the need to have a small team spread oil all over the track..

I like that idea actually.

And as stated before, watch out for Villeneuve, that jackass.

Obligatory left turn statement to show people I like real racing. Just like college football is way better than pro football. BRB gotta go hit the beer bong bro.

DukeOfUndersteer
DukeOfUndersteer PowerDork
8/13/12 8:48 p.m.

In reply to Anti-stance:

Maaaaan, she was checkin out my AMG hat bro... she must know I'm wealthy....

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon Dork
8/13/12 9:00 p.m.

I'm pretty sure the wipers and rain tires are for the nationwide series, because people don't stick around for a rain delay of that series.

They have been to Road America though, and it was amazing.

I'm just ready for V8 supercars in Austin next year.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance Dork
8/13/12 9:56 p.m.
BoostedBrandon wrote: They have been to Road America though, and it was amazing. I'm just ready for V8 supercars in Austin next year.

I really think it is a shame that the Sprint Cup doesn't go to Road America. Hell, I'd like to see them at Road Atlanta too. The concrete jungle is too much for them, just ask Brad K.

I really would like to go to the Aussie V8 Supercars race next year.

novaderrik
novaderrik SuperDork
8/13/12 10:29 p.m.
BoostedBrandon wrote: I'm pretty sure the wipers and rain tires are for the nationwide series, because people don't stick around for a rain delay of that series. They have been to Road America though, and it was amazing. I'm just ready for V8 supercars in Austin next year.

they made the Cup teams put wipers on the cars at the road courses, but they gave up on the idea of running in the rain after about a decade or so when it never rained.

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