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frenchyd said

I got a really bad cold once and was sneezing and coughing like crazy. The next day they had a sales meeting I wasn't there even though I told the boss I was sick and wouldn't be coming in. I was fired. 
 

During Covid time, rest assured, that would never happen  

On a more serious note, I am curious, if one IS fired from a job, for their next job, do they omit that job, or they write they worked there and was fired? And if the latter, how do they explain the "firing" to the next potential employer?

In reply to frenchyd :

I always laugh when people complain about "dealer greed" driving car prices up.

It's "consumer greed" that's driving the buyer to negotiate a lower price.  Flip side of the same coin.

The point is to meet somewhere in the middle, with both sides just happy enough to accept the bargain.  That's how capitalism works.

Duke said:

In reply to frenchyd :

I always laugh when people complain about "dealer greed" driving car prices up.

It's "consumer greed" that's driving the buyer to negotiate a lower price.  Flip side of the same coin.

The point is to meet somewhere in the middle, with both sides just happy enough to accept the bargain.  That's how capitalism works.

 

While I hate spending more than I absolutely need to, I fully recognize the truth in your statement.  And I think the "dealer greed" was always there, but the "consumer greed" grows daily as consumers overspend on trendy items.

The owner of the (very small) company that I first worked for was a gentleman who always drove Cadillacs.  I guarantee he picked out a car and said "How much?" and that's what he paid.  It would have been well beneath him to try to negotiate a better price.  He was prosperous and proud of that fact.  To haggle on price would have seemed "cheap" to him.   He had his money and recognized that the people who sell cars need to make money as well.  I'm not sure too many people understand that today.

mr2s2000elise said:

frenchyd said

I got a really bad cold once and was sneezing and coughing like crazy. The next day they had a sales meeting I wasn't there even though I told the boss I was sick and wouldn't be coming in. I was fired. 
 

During Covid time, rest assured, that would never happen  

 

On a more serious note, I am curious, if one IS fired from a job, for their next job, do they omit that job, or they write they worked there and was fired? And if the latter, how do they explain the "firing" to the next potential employer?

I don't list a job like that. My resume was filled with Atta Boys and documented proof of my past performance doing 6 figure plus jobs. But once past a certain age, ( typically late 50's early 60's  you won't ever be rehired since those jobs typically take a year or more to establish yourself ) 

Your only chance is you get rehired.  Or you become a school bus driver. 
If you're younger than that don't list a job unless you were at it long enough for it to serve as a placeholder.  Showing work ethic. If asked explain it didn't work out.  Don't blame your boss,  don't accept fault. Just show your achievements and progress. 
Legally your previous boss isn't allowed to bad mouth you.  Typically they say things like he worked from••••• to ••••••  His pay was ••••••  and his attendance  was ••••••••• 

mr2s2000elise said:

frenchyd said

I got a really bad cold once and was sneezing and coughing like crazy. The next day they had a sales meeting I wasn't there even though I told the boss I was sick and wouldn't be coming in. I was fired. 
 

During Covid time, rest assured, that would never happen  

 

On a more serious note, I am curious, if one IS fired from a job, for their next job, do they omit that job, or they write they worked there and was fired? And if the latter, how do they explain the "firing" to the next potential employer?

Try honesty. 
 

I used to work as part of a hiring team for a busy company. I've read thousands of resumes. If you've got a gap in employment, you're not gonna hide it from me. I will see it, and I will NOT call you in for an interview. 
 

If I call you for an interview, tell the TRUTH.  Or you will have another firing on your resume. If I ask why you left your last job, it is perfectly ok to say "I made a mistake which led to my termination, but I have learned from it and made some changes".  An honest response like that will stand out- because I hear way too many people lying.  You will make it to the next interview. 

frenchyd said:

I don't list a job like that. My resume was filled with Atta Boys and documented proof of my past performance doing 6 figure plus jobs. But once past a certain age, ( typically late 50's early 60's  you won't ever be rehired since those jobs typically take a year or more to establish yourself ) 

Your only chance is you get rehired.  Or you become a school bus driver. 

I'm 61 years old. I am currently working in my field. When my last employer let me go last year I was unemployed for exactly two days before my current employer hired me. I had another offer on the table as well. I am always getting calls from recruiters. Last week a former boss called to see if I was working because she wanted to hire me back at her new firm. And all I ever hear from other people my age is to not bother looking because nobody hires us old farts. And anything involving high tech, forget it..........except my job invoves a lot of database work and computer presentation work. I could double my salary if I wanted to move to someplace like Washington DC or the Silicon Valley, but I don't. Some things are more important than money. Some of the guys who hire me are as old, if not older than I am. I'm not quite sure what I'm doing......right. 

In reply to Snowdoggie :

My wife is in the same position. She's in high tech and works for one of the major banks. She's making more than she ever has with full benefits and retirement and working from home.  She's 65 

I can tell you once I hit 58 everybody stopped calling  when the recession hit I couldn't get a single company to even give me a meeting or if they did once I walked in and they saw Grey hair you could see the meeting was over. 
 
Things may be different now but at 72 I'm just riding things out 

frenchyd said:

once I walked in and they saw Grey hair you could see the meeting was over.

Reminds me of the T.V. commercial for a men's hair coloring product where two hiring managers are standing behind two job candidates that are facing away and one manager says, "I want energy" and points to the head that has brown hair and the other hiring manager says "I want experience" and points to the head that has grey hair.

frenchyd, they did you a favor...why would you waste your time, effort, and talent on a company that's so intellectually bankrupt that they value people based on their hair color???

Back on topic,

When I was around 17, I went to a florist and asked them what they could do for $25 hoping I could get something nice for my sweetheart...they selected a vase, pulled a bunch of different types of flowers, trimmed them, and artfully placed them in the vase.  It was beautiful and I happily handed over a $20 and a $5 as payment...the florist said "the vase & tax puts you at $32.XX".  I reminded her that I said $25 and opened my wallet to reveal that I had no more money.

She pulled some flowers out which made the arrangement to look stupid and I just walked away.

I'm a literal person...$25 means $25.

In reply to RX Reven' :

When you haven't had a paycheck in 5 years.  You pretty much will accept anything.  The savings all gone, the retirement has been used up, I've worn out every suit I had, Every pair of shoes, my truck is worn out and my wife is dying of a rare form of cancer.  
So yeh I'd work with anyone who'd hire me.