Patio if necessary

This may be patio territory but this is really getting beyond the territory of being polite at a party. The various parts of government are starting to come apart at the seams.

POTUS signs an executive order. It throws the system into chaos because it's poorly thought out and executed without regard to consequences or even notifying Homeland Security that it's happening.

Justice puts a halt to it in places. Acting AG gets fired. HS refuses to enforce said EO. WH seeks injunction against HS to force them to enforce said EO.

It's an utter and complete E36 M3 show. It aspires to be a berkeleying dumpster fire. I normally try to be sanguin about such things but this has me legitimately concerned for the country.

Feel free to lock if you like, I needed to get this off my chest.

Whether or not you like the politics involved, the system, so far, is working as intended. The courts have made rulings that the EO isn't enforcable or indeed legal, and the Federal agencies involved are following court orders.

This sort of thing is exactly WHY we have separate branches of government. We have a system of laws, not autocratic whim.

Welcome to Costco.

I love you.

My favorite is still the wall. I suspect mr. Trump has never been to the border states, and gRossly misinterprets who his labor force is going to be.

The Germans were having a laugh about it in print this week. I'm sure there were tweets.

I like all the chaos.. it is exposing the flaws in the system and can potentially lead to a leaner and more responsive government.. This is what it looks like when decades of redundant bureaucracy gets dismantled..

In reply to Huckleberry:

Yeah, because the Krauts have room to laugh. It's not like you can be arrested for criticizing how the government is handling the immigration over there under "hate speech" laws.

1. Where was all the outrage when the previous President halted Cuban refugees just before he left office? Some still stranded Mexico.

2. The 7 countries affected was already pointed out by previous President.

3. Us Code 8 1182 gives the President power to stop people from coming in. Ask Jimmy Carter.

4. FDR wasn't afraid to use executive orders or stop immigration.

Maybe too much too soon from the start.

novaderrik wrote: I like all the chaos.. it is exposing the flaws in the system and can potentially lead to a leaner and more responsive government.. This is what it looks like when decades of redundant bureaucracy gets dismantled..

The point of having multiple checks and balances is so that the government DOESN'T move fast. All that redundancy is a safety valve. Rapid change is almost always a bad thing for the people of a country.

Lock it, lock it now.

(Before I say some things that will surely set this place ablaze)

^Only reason I still have FB. Gives me a place to say stuff that would get me banned everywhere else.

Nothing to add. Just want in.

Where's the popcorn?

Grizz wrote: ^Only reason I still have FB. Gives me a place to say stuff that would get me banned everywhere else.

Me too. I post things I don't always agree with just because I have a dozen relatives and coworkers that are one or two memes away from an aneurysm. The funniest parts are when I make a comment and am both a pinko commie bastard and a right wing lunatic.

Wall-e wrote: The funniest parts are when I make a comment and am both a pinko commie bastard and a right wing lunatic.

That just means you're doing it right! Or at least, have a broad spectrum of friends instead of surrounding yourself in an echo chamber.

So, I guess that also means you're doing it right.

All I'll say is that if modern medicine and a small army of physicans, surgeons, nurses, pa's, occupional and physical therapist hadn't managed to get me better, that I wouldn't taken care of the situation already.