turboswede wrote:novaderrik wrote: put up a KFC/liquor store there with a watermelon stand out front and places out back to play dice and i bet no one would complain..That is quite possibly the most hateful, ignorant and racist thing I've ever read on this site. If you honestly think that is berkeleying funny, you need to get your head examined.
So... You don't like fried chicken, beer and watermelon?
Who DOESN'T like those things?
In reply to Trans_Maro:
Communists. And hippies.
Article said: because the store would “increase the desirability of the neighborhood,” for “non-oppressed populations.”
I read this at the end of the first paragraph and thought "this isn't real and even if it is, it's not worth reading the rest."
Anti-stance wrote:Article said: because the store would “increase the desirability of the neighborhood,” for “non-oppressed populations.”I read this at the end of the first paragraph and thought "this isn't real and even if it is, it's not worth reading the rest."
All I can say is that I work in the "ghetto" neighborhoods all the time and some of them are actually trying to become better places and are trying have places like Trader Joes come in.
It saddens me that government "officials" and African American "leaders" are actively trying to keep stores like TJs from coming into areas that could very well benefit from healthy foods and jobs.
Some of these neighborhoods struggle just to have a grocery store that has something of an produce section.
It's ridiculous and embarrassing to live in a country that people can't have easy access to healthy foods.
It sounds like this particular area wasn't necessarily a "ghetto" but a predominantly African American area.
The other posts in this thread that were deemed "racist" were more true than one would like to think.
My favorite quote was "and will continue to oppose businesses that do not solely benefit the black community". Parden my ignorance but just what kind of shop only benefits black people?
mndsm wrote: My favorite quote was "and will continue to oppose businesses that do not solely benefit the black community". Parden my ignorance but just what kind of shop only benefits black people?
Don't know, and if we answer that question, it'd be racist.
Swank Force One wrote:mndsm wrote: My favorite quote was "and will continue to oppose businesses that do not solely benefit the black community". Parden my ignorance but just what kind of shop only benefits black people?Don't know, and if we answer that question, it'd be racist.
I've already been accused of racsism plenty of times ... Might as well make it worth it.
I was called racist once because i didn't vote for Obama.
The "nice lady" didn't even bother to ask me if i voted or not after asking me if i voted for him, rendering her data point largely useless.
Swank Force One wrote:mndsm wrote: My favorite quote was "and will continue to oppose businesses that do not solely benefit the black community". Parden my ignorance but just what kind of shop only benefits black people?Don't know, and if we answer that question, it'd be racist.
This x100000
SyntheticBlinkerFluid wrote: Some of these neighborhoods struggle just to have a grocery store that has something of an produce section. It's ridiculous and embarrassing to live in a country that people can't have easy access to healthy foods. It sounds like this particular area wasn't necessarily a "ghetto" but a predominantly African American area. The other posts in this thread that were deemed "racist" were more true than one would like to think.
There are plenty of people who have access to good food and don't want it. A few months ago I was working in an area that was deemed a "food desert" where people were forced to buy bad food because there were no other choices, except for a new independent grocery that was almost always devoid of customers, and a Whole Foods. The mayor with the best of intentions decides to have a sidewalk produce stand replace the coffee cart. The prices are good, he takes ebt, and the old times sneer at him as another sign of the whites gentrifying the place and push them out.
20 years ago I would go into some of these areas for work and see junkies with needles in there arms, old woman would get beaten and robbed, they were the very picture many of you think of when someone mentions New York. I never would have stood out on a corner at 11pm like in do at work now. I just don't understand how the fewer homicides and crime in general, better services, and improved amenities are a bad thing.
In reply to Wally:
Everybody remembers them as the good 'ol days even if they weren't good.
In reply to Wally: Because somehow whitey is keeping them down.
In reply to mndsm:
Ya think anyone will ever figure out that often free stuff can be slavery, or worse......
In reply to ronholm:
Nope and there is the heart of another problem. People become slaves to handouts and dont know how to get their own ish. Case in point a woman my wife case manages for received a giant pile of free over xmas. Cell phone cards, grocery cards, clothes, you name it. Calls my wife less than a month later from a different phone she had to get having used the new one up already in emergent need of food because she didn't have anything for her kids. All the free ish was gone already.... And she didn't have the sense to get food instead.of a phone.
Its as though being oppressed has become a part of the culture and they have no clue what to do if no one is holding them down.
In Charleston, some of the really bad n'hoods were probably 30% vacant and were infested with dope dealers, hookers, you name it. (America Street was the epicenter, for those of you who may be familiar with the area.)
So some yuppies, er, honkies bought some of the vacant houses and started fixing them up, actually living in them instead of turning them into investment rentals. The next thing you know, the local 'neighborhood activists' lost their ever lovin' MINDS because the gentrification was raising housing values thus raising property taxes thus forcing the long term residents from their homes.
http://www.charlestoncitypaper.com/charleston/gentrification-breaks-a-neighborhood-down-from-the-inside-out/Content?oid=4615103
So let me get this straight: people would rather live in a slum with with hookers and dope dealers than to put a few more $ into those homes to improve the neighborhood?
Datsun1500 wrote: I want to make sure I know the rules. Keep out Trader Joes because it will bring too many white people to the area, not racist. Say watermelon and fried chicken, racist. Did I miss anything? I forgot, only white people can be racist....
Yep. And its cool to call whitey honky or cracker and sneer at them for doing white people things like not beating their kids. But god forbid it goes the other way.
Datsun1500 wrote: I want to make sure I know the rules. Keep out Trader Joes because it will bring too many white people to the area, not racist. Say watermelon and fried chicken, racist. Did I miss anything? I forgot, only white people can be racist....
I was wondering about that as well, and I wasn't even born here,
aussiesmg wrote:Datsun1500 wrote: I want to make sure I know the rules. Keep out Trader Joes because it will bring too many white people to the area, not racist. Say watermelon and fried chicken, racist. Did I miss anything? I forgot, only white people can be racist....I was wondering about that as well, and I wasn't even born here,
Quiet you. We ain't got no time for big beers, chicks with hot accents, or drop bears.
In reply to Curmudgeon: If they can't afford to live in them anymore, what's the point?
Curmudgeon wrote: So let me get this straight: people would rather live in a slum with with hookers and dope dealers than to put a few more $ into those homes to improve the neighborhood?
In short yes. I am in and out of these peoples houses every day. I see it first hand. I have personally seen someone get their gas shut off on the same day they were getting cable installed and they didn't care.
However, in the some of the ghetto Chicago south suburbs, there are actually people who give a E36 M3 about their homes. They generally live in what's called "Block Clubs" and it's like a Ghetto HOA. They have houses that are nice, well manicured landscaping, and they're not afraid to pick up the phone and call the 5-0 when something ain't right. It's kind of strange when the next block over there all but 3 houses boarded up.
And some of you are missing the reason hidden in that horribly written, one-sided article. Lot of "Interpretation" by the author to what he thinks is the reason.
novaderrik wrote: put up a KFC/liquor store there with a watermelon stand out front and places out back to play dice and i bet no one would complain..
Oh, but Whitey would complain. And sure as E36 M3, Al Shaptongue would be there in the blink of an eye, raising Cain.
Curmudgeon wrote: So let me get this straight: people would rather live in a slum with with hookers and dope dealers than to put a few more $ into those homes to improve the neighborhood?
When those dollars would buy food & enough gasoline to get to work instead, well..yeah. That BMWE36hole I lived in when I lived in Marietta, GA was pretty much "da hood". I figured I had guns, my car was too old to be stolen, I could continue to pay my child support (spelled "avoiding lawyers") since the rent was so low, so I'd be OK. I don't buy sex, the hookers are irrelevant. I don't buy dope, the dealers are irrelevant, as long as they're not shooting at each other out in front of the place. I'll admit I came home to a hole in a window and a wall one day. Kinda pissed me off, but I had enough crap to stuff in the holes so that my heating bill didn't go out of sight.
IMO, a slum is a step up from being homeless. I'd rather be in a slum than living on the street, or in jail.
racerfink wrote: And some of you are missing the reason hidden in that horribly written, one-sided article. Lot of "Interpretation" by the author to what he thinks is the reason.
Well how are you reading it?
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