Proud to be an Okie

It would seem that in addition to soldiers, freedom, gays, and Liz Taylor (apparently ) it seems the crew at Westboro Baptist Church officially believes that "God Hates Oklahoma."

It would be on their website but I guess it keeps getting trashed (Maybe you should spent less time hating and more on network security)

But according to a recent entry in Two Wheel Oklahoma's blog, we have made the list. I think we're the first state to make the list, which makes me damm proud.

No I wasn't born here, but knowing that Fred Phelps and his merry little band of hypocrite's don't like us due to a little tire problem they had last year in McAlester last year, I will happily sing "Okie from Muskogee" at the top of my lungs.

As a biker, they already hate me, but now I got 2 reasons. Woot.

Congrats, Even we in New York couldn't make the list and we have more "deviants" than you do people. Well Done

That's excellent!

I'm an okie through and through, although not from Muskogee.

Waiting for the day one of those Baptists gets caught with kiddie porn, arrested at a strip club or caught in a homosexual affair.

You know one of those freaks is a freak!

Dan

Man those people make me sick.

That's pretty wild. I would have figured... well, pretty much anywhere other than Oklahoma.

Generally speaking, we Kansans try not to talk to much smack about Oklahoma. They're sorta like that crazy neighbor that you're not quite sure about but you keep things friendly and go on about your business. And that works pretty well.

Plus, before we can talk too much smack, we have to look at everything between about Lawrence and Colorado, and we tend to shut up pretty quick.

So out of all the states chock full of pervs and homos and god-hatin' liberals out there, Phelps picks Oklahoma?

Jeez, any response just lends some credibility to the batE36 M3 craziness.

It's like someone came up to you and said, in all seriousness, that the moon is a giant cat toy made of cream cheese and suspended from God's finger. You could argue, but doing so only establishes the whackadoo as a viable, realistic position. Better to just point and laugh.

Tim Baxter wrote: That's pretty wild. I would have figured... well, pretty much anywhere other than Oklahoma. Generally speaking, we Kansans try not to talk to much smack about Oklahoma. They're sorta like that crazy neighbor that you're not quite sure about but you keep things friendly and go on about your business. And that works pretty well.

That's hysterical!

Although I'm sure plenty of other states are filled with crazy hillbillies! Maybe us Okies are just a special kind of crazy.

Tim Baxter wrote: So out of all the states chock full of pervs and homos and god-hatin' liberals out there, Phelps picks Oklahoma? Jeez, any response just lends some credibility to the batE36 M3 craziness.

this all stems from an incident in OK last year where they showed up in town to protest, then when they were done and ready to go home, somehow all of their tires had gone flat. on top of that, all of the town's local businesses politely claimed their right to refuse service to anyone, at any time, and did so.

they ended up getting service at the local wal-mart, so they did eventually leave town

Was just listening to that song - love it.

Actually, The Creature Known As Fred causes me double embarrassment. I live in Kansas. But at least as far away from Topeka and still live in Kansas. (look at a map, and find my town!) But I'm also (ahem) a minister. The Phelpsites are so far away from true Christianity that I wonder why anybody calls them a "church". The "god" they preach is very much like the "Allah" of the Koran and nothing like the Jesus of the Bible. Personally? I wonder why every Baptist in America hasn't joined together in a class-action suit for defamation of character. At least I'm a Methodist.

Great link here about anti-westboro protests.

pstrbrc wrote: Actually, The Creature Known As Fred causes me double embarrassment. I live in Kansas. But at least as far away from Topeka and still live in Kansas. (look at a map, and find my town!) But I'm also (ahem) a minister. The Phelpsites are so far away from true Christianity that I wonder why anybody calls them a "church". The "god" they preach is very much like the "Allah" of the Koran and nothing like the Jesus of the Bible. Personally? I wonder why every Baptist in America hasn't joined together in a class-action suit for defamation of character. At least I'm a Methodist.

I just found person #3 (I think) that I can just follow along and say "I agree" to without even having to read the post.

that's hysterical. I have been to Oklahoma.. friends of mine moved to Ponca City. Whole lot of nothing up in that corner of the state.

Nice people.. but a bit too straitlaced for my mental stability.

As for Phelps and crew.. one day their luck is going to run out and one of them is going to get seriously hurt of worse.

I have friends in Ponca City, too. We laugh about Kansas being the edgier, hipper of the two states.

In reply to Mental:

I lived in Oklahoma for a year back in '82. Does that qualify me?

I try to avoid stereotyping but isn't it true that lots of people in Oklahoma drive really fast?

chuckles no they dont! they drive stupid!!!! speed up when its raining and go stupid slow when there is no reason. drive in the left hand lane while doing the speed limit then get pissed when you pass them on right.... i could go on but okie drivers are among the worst i have ever ever ever ever seen

- Katy

Yes we do drive fast (some of us anyway), lots of wide open spaces here.

We just got back from a road trip to Nashville, it blew my mind how slow people drive in Tennessee. At least they do a much better job of getting out of the fast lane.

on country roads ya okies drive fast but highways and around town hell no.

z31maniac wrote: Yes we do drive fast (some of us anyway), lots of wide open spaces here. We just got back from a road trip to Nashville, it blew my mind how slow people drive in Tennessee. At least they do a much better job of getting out of the fast lane.

Second that about TN - those guys keep right. Not sure why.

z31maniac wrote: Yes we do drive fast (some of us anyway), lots of wide open spaces here. We just got back from a road trip to Nashville, it blew my mind how slow people drive in Tennessee. At least they do a much better job of getting out of the fast lane.

yeah but the only people they give tickets to in OK are the ones with TX plates

pstrbrc wrote: The "god" they preach is very much like the "Allah" of the Koran

You had me until that. That's just an ignorant statement. The "God" the WBC preaches if anything is an exagerated version of the old Testament God, when He went around demanding sacrafices of first-bon sons, destroying cities, and generally throwing temper-tantrums and plagues at whoever pissed Him off.

Now, if you have some legit rebuttal, I'd be glad to hear it. I'm always up for a good, rational, non-floundering, religious discussion.

pstrbrc wrote: The "god" they preach is very much like the "Allah" of the Koran and nothing like the Jesus of the Bible.

Near as I can tell, all religions have the capacity to be interpreted in a completely bat-E36-M3 fashion, or to be interpreted in a more, well, neighborly way.

I'm not a part of any religion, and am mostly concerned about how they all are to live next door to. And as near as I can tell, just about all of 'em have enough crazy uncles to be holding services in glass houses, if I may mash too many metaphors together. And I know at least a little bit about the official stance on casting stones...

Have I somehow misinterpreted your comment about the Koran? I know less about Islam than Christianity, but lumping it together with the Westboro Baptists seems like painting with a broad brush, and a strange association on top of it.

EDIT: Looks like I spent a little too long pondering this one... Swear I wrote most of it before ReverendDexter posted

tuna55, I don't know but it's fanastic!

strizzo, it's just the opposite when us Okies come down to TX.

ReverendDexter wrote:

pstrbrc wrote: The "god" they preach is very much like the "Allah" of the Koran

You had me until that. That's just an ignorant statement. The "God" the WBC preaches if anything is an exagerated version of the old Testament God, when He went around demanding sacrafices of first-bon sons, destroying cities, and generally throwing temper-tantrums and plagues at whoever pissed Him off. Now, if you have some legit rebuttal, I'd be glad to hear it. I'm always up for a good, rational, non-floundering, religious discussion.

Man, you're gonna make me pull out my copy of the Koran, as well as fish through some old theology books. Give me time. But here's a nibbler: The most respected theological works in Islam favorably compare the Koranic Allah with the God of the Abrahamic covenant, with the predominant difference being that Allah is more distant and aloof than the God who covenanted with Abraham, and demands a higher level of unquestioning obedience, especially when demanding enemies be punished. This ties into all the iterations of jihad, from the nonviolent, "jihad is personal struggle" understanding to the "death while killing infidels will get me 72 virgins" understanding. Therefore, from a Jewish or Christian perspective, it is not inappropriate to see the Koranic Allah as a bête noire version of God/Jehovah. Which, if you were to ask me to describe the god of The Loser Named Fred, is pretty good.