corytate
corytate SuperDork
10/24/13 7:18 a.m.

I'm buying STI wheels from someone at work who already had them bored out to fit a 67.1mm hub bore.
he has them on his protege5 and has to run a little 8mm spacer in front and a much larger one in the rear to get the wheel to sit flush on the hub.

Basically, when they bored the wheels out, they could only go about 1cm in, the hub on my car sticks out about 2-3cm though
since the weight is carried on the hubs (correct?) is the little 1cm of wheel resting on the hub, with the other ~2cm between the wheel and the actual flat surface of the brake rotor hat, okay or too sketchy?
If I get spacers, where can I locate extended lug studs for a kia?
The way he has it on his car is with stock studs, and it's too sketchy for me... (only about 4 or 5 threads on the rears, maybe 8 or 9 on the fronts)

I can probably get the front spacers off him and get another pair made, but pretty much what I'm asking is do they absolutely have to sit perfectly flush to be safe?

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand UberDork
10/24/13 7:43 a.m.
corytate wrote: I can probably get the front spacers off him and get another pair made, but pretty much what I'm asking is do they absolutely have to sit perfectly flush to be safe?

yes

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
10/24/13 8:21 a.m.

corytate
corytate SuperDork
10/24/13 8:45 a.m.

lol.

exactly what I figured.

AngryCorvair
AngryCorvair GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
10/24/13 10:03 a.m.

weight not carried by pilot surface of hub. weight carried by friction between wheel vertical mounting surface and hub vertical mounting surface. friction at interface due to clamp load applied by properly sized and torqued wheel studs and nuts. hub pilot = assembly aid.

corytate
corytate SuperDork
10/24/13 11:25 a.m.
AngryCorvair wrote: weight not carried by pilot surface of hub. weight carried by friction between wheel vertical mounting surface and hub vertical mounting surface. friction at interface due to clamp load applied by properly sized and torqued wheel studs and nuts. hub pilot = assembly aid.

thank you, this makes it much clearer to me.

Anyone know where I can find some long studs that will work for a hyundai/kia?

nocones
nocones GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/24/13 11:35 a.m.

Grind off 2cm of hub flange?

Those are long flanges if they are 3cm long. I've never seen a hub wheel bore interface longer than 1/4" (6.3mm or .63 cm for you people)

corytate
corytate SuperDork
10/24/13 12:23 p.m.
nocones wrote: Grind off 2cm of hub flange? Those are long flanges if they are 3cm long. I've never seen a hub wheel bore interface longer than 1/4" (6.3mm or .63 cm for you people)

I'm going to measure them before I do anything, Will report back. Never thought of grinding the flange down... interesting...

curtis73
curtis73 GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
10/24/13 3:26 p.m.

I drilled out some Chevy 8-lug wheels to fit a Ford hub. I just drilled them too big and gave up the hub-centric part. Never had an issue.

Yes, hub-centric is a bit better, but I've never had a problem using non-hub centric wheels.

Lancer007
Lancer007 New Reader
10/24/13 4:59 p.m.

A friend of mine had to do that to some sti wheels for them to fit on his s2000, I don't recall how much material had to be removed but he made them to be hubcentric on the s. No problems with them for as long has he had it. And that included several track days.

Edit: just re read your post and realized what you were specifically getting at. I like nocones ideas.

iceracer
iceracer UberDork
10/24/13 5:04 p.m.

Places that sell spacers will have longer studs/bolts.

corytate
corytate SuperDork
10/24/13 7:32 p.m.

I'll think it over, I still haven't decided for sure if I'm going to trade up for an sti or keep this car forever and ever and ever and get a project subie (cheaper and much more logical choice, considering how much I've paid off on this thing already and how much I kept up with the maintenance, which may be questionable buyign a used sti)

corytate
corytate SuperDork
10/24/13 7:37 p.m.

either way I'm getting the sti wheels. For $300 with tires I can't lose, resale on them should be cake if I have to sell

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