Saw a fairly new minivan the other day, doors open but auto start had it running. I am not a larcenous person but it had me wondering if someone can just jump in and drive it away. Is there some sort of interlock or feature that kills the engine if someone tries putting it in drive?
Yes.
No key, so steering and shifter are locked. Step on the brake pedal, engine cuts out.
In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
In reply to porschenut :
Then it's like any other time keys are left in any car.
porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
Any fool who leaves his key in the console deserves to lose his car, so...
Streetwiseguy said:porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
Any fool who leaves his key in the console deserves to lose his car, so...
Maybe you could try moving to an area where that is less of an issue?
In reply to Racebrick :
I live in a pretty nice area, and auto theft is becoming an increasingly real issue on a regular basis. Tell me where this is not happening.
porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
It would be hard to do a remote start with the key not with the owner....
I think if the key was in the console, and it was started- it would be a normal start.
BTW, if you start the car, and then get out (with the key), cars know that, too. I do this all the time when we are camping, and it won't engage drive with the key not there.
alfadriver said:porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
It would be hard to do a remote start with the key not with the owner....
I think if the key was in the console, and it was started- it would be a normal start.
BTW, if you start the car, and then get out (with the key), cars know that, too. I do this all the time when we are camping, and it won't engage drive with the key not there.
Ford App, key has nothing to do with it.
Streetwiseguy said:porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
Any fool who leaves his key in the console deserves to lose his car, so...
This is victim blaming. You don't know why the car was left in such a situation. Maybe the parent had an issue with a child? Maybe an elderly person suffered a fall? Who knows. Nobody invites bad behavior. People offer it regardless.
In reply to chandler :
My key has remote start on it... and it's a ford, too. (and I really, really don't like the ford app- I never use it- just don't get the point)
Then again, I never understood the appeal for remote start. Just get in, start, and go. If you are worried about being cold, get heated seats.
Also- why would people leave their key in the vehicle? Seems to defeat the purpose of having a key for a car in the first place.
I believe someone tried to steal my wife's car. She remote started it, then put her lunch in the back seat, went into the house for about three minutes. When she came out the glovebox and console were open. They didn't take anything. While giving the police report I mentioned to the officer that I figured they tried to steal it and couldn't so left. He confirmed that early morning thefts are on a rise.
I'm in a very low crime area but times are tough.
This is our first car with remote start, if this happened any other time in the last 20 years the keys would have been in the ignition.
Our Fusion Hybrid at school (I teach high school DE) has remote start through the app. The app is clunky. But it takes me 30 minutes to get to work. I hit the start before I leave. When I arrive at school the car has warmed enough that clearing the snow and ice is WAY easier.
Not a real situation just stupid questions from someone who never had remote start or a car newer than 2005. Not looking to steal anyone's car or concerned about someone staeling one of mine.
vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) said:Streetwiseguy said:porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
Any fool who leaves his key in the console deserves to lose his car, so...
This is victim blaming. You don't know why the car was left in such a situation. Maybe the parent had an issue with a child? Maybe an elderly person suffered a fall? Who knows. Nobody invites bad behavior. People offer it regardless.
It sure is victim blaming, because the victim did something that led directly to the unfortunate outcome. I'm ok with that.
alfadriver said:In reply to chandler :
My key has remote start on it... and it's a ford, too. (and I really, really don't like the ford app- I never use it- just don't get the point)
Then again, I never understood the appeal for remote start. Just get in, start, and go. If you are worried about being cold, get heated seats.
Also- why would people leave their key in the vehicle? Seems to defeat the purpose of having a key for a car in the first place.
Too many mornings where the windshield fogs over as soon as I start moving.
I mean, I don't have a remote start, but I get the appeal.
In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Yep. I use the remote start in my minivan a lot. If it's stupid-hot outside, I'll let it run for a few minutes with the A/C to start cooling down the interior. Similar if it's really cold. If it's below 37 deg F, the remote start will automatically turn on the heated steering wheel and driver's seat (at least it did when the driver's heated seat still worked) so they were nice and toasty when I got in.
I know modern practice is to get in a drive no matter how cold it is, but in my experience the car is much happier about it if I can let it run for a minute or two before I start moving. I still have to remind myself to let the engine warm up a bit when I drive my Triumphs. Those engines really don't like going until they've had a minute or three to warm up a bit.
Ian F (Forum Supporter) said:I still have to remind myself to let the engine warm up a bit when I drive my Triumphs. Those engines really don't like going until they've had a minute or three to warm up a bit.
Streetwiseguy said:vwcorvette (Forum Supporter) said:Streetwiseguy said:porschenut said:In reply to Streetwiseguy :
What if it is in warmup mode and the key is in the console?
Any fool who leaves his key in the console deserves to lose his car, so...
This is victim blaming. You don't know why the car was left in such a situation. Maybe the parent had an issue with a child? Maybe an elderly person suffered a fall? Who knows. Nobody invites bad behavior. People offer it regardless.
It sure is victim blaming, because the victim did something that led directly to the unfortunate outcome. I'm ok with that.
In the some of the neighborhoods around us, cars aren't being stolen but lots of people going around checking the doors and rummaging through cars.
We have a RING doorbell and are part of the RING app and neighborhoods. I'm absolutely ASTOUNDED by how many people leave their cars, not only parked in the driveway instead of their garage, but how many people seem to leave their doors unlocked and leave valuables in the car.
Both of our cars get parked in the garage and we STILL LOCK the doors of the cars inside the garage and don't leave anything in the cars.
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