Seriously New York?!?

In other news. Mr Bloomberg honors the largest box of donuts ever. That would be two days after announcing the proposed ban on large drinks.

Click Me Please.

Fit_Is_Slo wrote: On a related topic Quiktrip $0.69 32oz fountain drinks are back!!

THey do it every summer.

When I started there in high school it was either .39 or .49!

In reply to Wally: Oh yah, I was in much better shape when I had a working knee. According to zee government I was morbidly obese at 250ish and largely flabby muscle, but I feel fat as berkeley right now at 235. It's annoying.

aussiesmg wrote: No offense but who goes to a junk food store caring about their health. If they had self control they'd eat a salad.

I would rather drink out of the deep fryer than eat a salad from a fast food place. Unless you're just talking about salad in general, in which case I usually don't put the filler on my plate.

This is by far not the most stupid thing politicians have done, but it is surprisingly irrelevant. As long as I can buy a 2 liter of mtn dew and 4 cans of monster it don't really matter if I can't get a large soda at the burger joint.

racerfink wrote: Just don't wash it down with a Big Gulp, right Mayor Bloomberg? http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/31/4528257/entenmanns-and-the-salvation-army.html#storylink=scinlineshare

It looks like you can still have your Big Gulp.

Big Apple deli owners yesterday cried foul over Mayor Bloomberg’s plan to ban them from selling sugary drinks that are more than 16 ounces — a rule that wouldn’t apply to “Big Gulp” king 7-Eleven and other grocery stores.

The proposed big-drink ban applies only to establishments that are inspected by the city Health Department and receive letter grades.

The city said it would have also gone after groceries and chains like 7-Eleven if it could have — but they are regulated by the state.

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/deli_fury_at_city_grocer_injustice_GCFGh8cslSAGcvjDVJLcGN#ixzz1wb4HRLm2

Wally wrote:

racerfink wrote: Just don't wash it down with a Big Gulp, right Mayor Bloomberg? http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/31/4528257/entenmanns-and-the-salvation-army.html#storylink=scinlineshare

It looks like you can still have your Big Gulp. Big Apple deli owners yesterday cried foul over Mayor Bloomberg’s plan to ban them from selling sugary drinks that are more than 16 ounces — a rule that wouldn’t apply to “Big Gulp” king 7-Eleven and other grocery stores. The proposed big-drink ban applies only to establishments that are inspected by the city Health Department and receive letter grades. The city said it would have also gone after groceries and chains like 7-Eleven if it could have — but they are regulated by the state. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/deli_fury_at_city_grocer_injustice_GCFGh8cslSAGcvjDVJLcGN#ixzz1wb4HRLm2

Glad the Post reported on that. What is the point of banning your mom and pop stores from selling big drinks if the chains can sell them to their heart's content?

The big problem with the huge drinks you get at McWendyKing and the like.. American's LOVE a bargan. The chance to double the size of your drink for a measly few cents is more than most people can pass up... and of course, once you have your food.. there are all those kids starving in India.. so you can't just throw it away.. you have HAVE to finish it.

The US has some serious food issues..

I do agree with europeans walking more. Friend of mine is from Cologne Germany.. he cannot get over how little we walk here and how much he HAS to drive to go anywhere or do anything. Even he is getting fat after being here for 5 years.. and it is bothering him to no end

mad_machine wrote:

Wally wrote:

racerfink wrote: Just don't wash it down with a Big Gulp, right Mayor Bloomberg? http://www.sacbee.com/2012/05/31/4528257/entenmanns-and-the-salvation-army.html#storylink=scinlineshare

It looks like you can still have your Big Gulp. Big Apple deli owners yesterday cried foul over Mayor Bloomberg’s plan to ban them from selling sugary drinks that are more than 16 ounces — a rule that wouldn’t apply to “Big Gulp” king 7-Eleven and other grocery stores. The proposed big-drink ban applies only to establishments that are inspected by the city Health Department and receive letter grades. The city said it would have also gone after groceries and chains like 7-Eleven if it could have — but they are regulated by the state. Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/queens/deli_fury_at_city_grocer_injustice_GCFGh8cslSAGcvjDVJLcGN#ixzz1wb4HRLm2

Glad the Post reported on that. What is the point of banning your mom and pop stores from selling big drinks if the chains can sell them to their heart's content? The big problem with the huge drinks you get at McWendyKing and the like.. American's LOVE a bargan. The chance to double the size of your drink for a measly few cents is more than most people can pass up... and of course, once you have your food.. there are all those kids starving in India.. so you can't just throw it away.. you have HAVE to finish it. The US has some serious food issues.. I do agree with europeans walking more. Friend of mine is from Cologne Germany.. he cannot get over how little we walk here and how much he HAS to drive to go anywhere or do anything. Even he is getting fat after being here for 5 years.. and it is bothering him to no end

Wah wah. Tell him to use his extra time from not walking at the gym.

Four cans of natural sugar sodas and one monster today. I'm pretty sure I'm not considered fat. Just throwing that out there.

mad_machine wrote: I do agree with europeans walking more. Friend of mine is from Cologne Germany.. he cannot get over how little we walk here and how much he HAS to drive to go anywhere or do anything. Even he is getting fat after being here for 5 years.. and it is bothering him to no end

I'd love to walk to be able walk more, but it's a 4 mile walk just to get to my nearest bus stop and then there isn't another within 2 miles of my work. 12 miles a day of walking plus 1+ hour each way on a bus isn't really an option.

And many 'burbs are like this, we've got too much space and not enough population density, so in all but a few cities, public transportation is a HUGE money loser.

That's why sometimes I think it'd be cool to live in a big city, but there's just too many people!

I wanna know why one has to have a reason other than "keeps me from being fat" for walking. You don't need a destination, just go wander around until you feel tired. Worked when we were kids, should still work now.

mad_machine wrote: I do agree with europeans walking more. Friend of mine is from Cologne Germany.. he cannot get over how little we walk here and how much he HAS to drive to go anywhere or do anything. Even he is getting fat after being here for 5 years.. and it is bothering him to no end

If this were happening in a suburb I could almost understand it then but almost everyone in NYC walks and takes subways and buses like the above mentioned European cities. I bought a pedometer in January and most days at work I'm averaging about 2.5 miles to and from the train and in the course of my job. I just can't believe that everything eles is running well enough that soda is the most pressing issue that needs government attention

Wally wrote: I just can't believe that everything eles is running well enough that soda is the most pressing issue that needs government attention

This is what gets me.

Wally wrote:

mad_machine wrote: I do agree with europeans walking more. Friend of mine is from Cologne Germany.. he cannot get over how little we walk here and how much he HAS to drive to go anywhere or do anything. Even he is getting fat after being here for 5 years.. and it is bothering him to no end

If this were happening in a suburb I could almost understand it then but almost everyone in NYC walks and takes subways and buses like the above mentioned European cities. I bought a pedometer in January and most days at work I'm averaging about 2.5 miles to and from the train and in the course of my job. I just can't believe that everything eles is running well enough that soda is the most pressing issue that needs government attention

you could call it a suburb.. more like a small town. South Jersey is full of small towns that were here long before Atlantic City became a gaming Mecca.. Unfortunately a lot of the small towns around here do not have the nice "mainstreet" anymore.. the two big malls, numerous strip malls, and the walmart have killed most of them.

I do a lot of walking and riding my bike. When I do have to drive somewhere, I generally park in the middle and walk to all the points.

Toyman01 wrote: In other news. Mr Bloomberg honors the largest box of donuts ever. That would be two days after announcing the proposed ban on large drinks. Click Me Please.

HAHA! Stupidity at its best.

mguar wrote: In reply to ThePhranc: Wow! talk about short sighted.. Just one of my wife's cancer pills cost $1000 per pill. (some pills cost $30,000 each) she takes 6 of those pills a day.. It's not unusual for a single operation to cost more than you will earn in your lifetime. A lot of people die of cancer.. And that's just one problem.. Poor and indigent get treatment. Yes you may be charged for some medical procedures. (Incidentally the #1 reason for bankruptcy is illness) However when the bill exceeds your ability to pay the bill doesn't just disappear.. Thank the tax payer..

So. Medicine is expensive.

The #1 reason for bankruptcy is people spending more than they can afford.

More people should just accept their mortality and die.

^^^

What happened to "you can do what you want, until it infringes on the rights of others?"

Grizz wrote: I wanna know why one has to have a reason other than "keeps me from being fat" for walking. You don't need a destination, just go wander around until you feel tired. Worked when we were kids, should still work now.

I go walking/jogging 3-5 times a week. Just saying it would be nice if I could incorporate that into going to work, like was mentioned in those big cities.

moparman76_69 wrote: What happened to "you can do what you want, until it infringes on the rights of others?"

There's very few Libertarians out there.......unfortuantely

I ate like E36 M3 my whole life and never gained weight till I bought my first car and started driving everywhere instead of walking. Today it's the size of soda pop,what's it gonna be taken away tomorrow.

mguar wrote: In reply to z31maniac: Libertarians have the illusion that they are rugged individuals who's life doesn't affect others.. But they drive on roads others have built and use public services others have paid for.. Including a health care system which while it's complicated out of necessity. So The idea of "It Takes a Village" Escapes their understanding.. However it's not the government.. It's our Government. We've made it complex because a lot of people have different Ideas and we need to include as many as possible.. It's their government too!

It seems you may have a convoluted interpretation of Libertarians.

I don't see them as opposed to government as much as the expanse of it and its' usurping of the power of the people it is intended to serve. Libertarians are not statists and still recognize/embrace the value of things like public services and roads; they contributed to their creation as much as anyone.

The concept of "it take a village" has merit up until said village's population is dominated by idiots and non-producers. There also comes a point at which the state simply oversteps its' bounds.

Hence the debate and controversy over things like dictating soft drink sizes.

Thank you for putting that much more succinctly than I could have, oldsaw.

I don't know why you guys are so serious about this? This E36 M3 is hilarious! How can you not all see that?

Salanis wrote: I don't know why you guys are so serious about this? This E36 M3 is hilarious! How can you not all see that?

The reason I pointed out the alcohol thing. Because people are thinking, "If they are seriously going to dictate soda size, what's next?"

Slippery slope fallacy and all, but still, it's a bit disconcerting.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. ~ C. S. Lewis"

oldsaw wrote: It seems you may have a convoluted interpretation of Libertarians. I don't see them as opposed to government as much as the expanse of it and its' usurping of the power of the people it is intended to serve. Libertarians are not statists and still recognize/embrace the value of things like public services and roads; they contributed to their creation as much as anyone. The concept of "it take a village" has merit up until said village's population is dominated by idiots and non-producers. There also comes a point at which the state simply oversteps its' bounds. Hence the debate and controversy over things like dictating soft drink sizes.

Exactly.

z31maniac wrote: I go walking/jogging 3-5 times a week. Just saying it would be nice if I could incorporate that into going to work, like was mentioned in those big cities.

Wasn't directing that at you, more just wondering aloud. I remember tons of times when I got blank stares from people when they asked where I was going on my walk. Nowhere man, I'm just going on a walk.

Here's a gauge of intelligence , when you go walking, do you at least stay off roads and sidewalks when you do it?

mguar wrote: In reply to Grizz: Grizz great thought but needs some development..The reason adults don't walk is the same logic we buy big drinks. A better deal.. First we don't walk as adults is because in the end it's pretend work (all exercise is pretend work).. As adults there is simply too much demand on our time. So we drive 60 MPH to get to soccer practice with the kids. etc..

No offense mguar, but that's horseE36 M3. Personal responsibility and all that. Even when I worked 12 hour shifts at a job that had me out of state for up to a week or more I still found the time to work out when needed. The idea that people don't exercise because it's pretend work is laughable on two parts. The first being that your average fatass isn't exercising because it's not real work, when it's actually because they're just lazy. It's far easier to sit on your ass and complain about being fat and the evils of fast food than it is to actually do anything about it. The second being that actual exercise, not whatever weight loss fad is currently popular, isn't actual work. Physical labor is physical labor, whether you're getting paid for it, doing it in the yard because it needs done or just lifting weights to get muscle. Deadlifting 400 pounds at work is no different than deadllifting 400 pounds in a gym.