Sharing the love- Honda Recalls 400,000 vehicles

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090731/NEWS-US-HONDA-RECALL/

Discuss.

Eric

Pot stirrer.

It's not as bad as the 2 million cars Toyota recalled a few years ago.

Oh, nevernind.

Additional 400,000 vehicles. They've already recalled some for the same problem. Stuff happens, but this one sounds painful.

alfadriver wrote: http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-general/20090731/NEWS-US-HONDA-RECALL/ Discuss. Eric

Eric, I think you were going for the "..imports aren't much different than domestics these days.." thing, but I gotta tell ya-personally, all that article did was bring all my old (80s era) hatred of airbags back to the surface.

I was about to ask for data that "proves" the things actually do anything other than add compexity and weight to cars, but after driving home from work tonight-and seeing several spectacular examples of how little skill the average American driver has behind the wheel-I can only conclude that the morons of the world need such things if they're going to live long enough to procreate.

Whether or not that's a "good" thing is a topic for a different thread, of course.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0387808/

Apologies for the attempted thread hijack...y'all just keep talking about build quality while I continue to search for "airbag delete" on the internet.

no pot stirred.. Just another example of a Japanese company taking ownership and driving customer satisfaction up by fixing their vehciles on their own before they need to be told to by a court or outside agency..

That is one hell of a run on sentence. ( just playing reverse devils advocate)

What a honda airbag might look like:

Ford had a similar recall a while back. It appears TRW (probably the single biggest manufacturer of airbags for everyone both foreign and domestic) made a whole bunch of bags where the propellant, which is basically solid rocket fuel, was not cleaned from the threads of the inflator module during assembly. When the bag deployed, the fuel trapped in the threads would ignite sending fragments everywhere and also setting things on fire.

Airbags blow goat balls for many reasons which I have covered before. I wish the damn things had never been made.

How can you be anti airbag? Unless youre riding around in race buckets and 6 point harnesses, airbags great. Better them than a facefull of steering wheel.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sAjRRfSnyk

i have a scar below my lip where the 1st gen airbag in my 96 escort pounded my teeth through my face. and burned through the long sleeve sweatshirt into my arms. metled nylon. messy. painful.

thedude wrote: How can you be anti airbag? Unless youre riding around in race buckets and 6 point harnesses, airbags great. Better them than a facefull of steering wheel. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sAjRRfSnyk

I've been in more than a few wrecks with a regular old lap/shoulder belt and never tasted dashboard or steering wheel.

bamalama wrote: I've been in more than a few wrecks with a regular old lap/shoulder belt and never tasted dashboard or steering wheel.

Oh. So it must never happen, then.

friedgreencorrado wrote: Apologies for the attempted thread hijack...y'all just keep talking about build quality while I continue to search for "airbag delete" on the internet.

Check this out: Legal airbag delete! http://www.safercar.gov/staticfiles/DOT/safercar/pdf/ON-OFF_Switch_Request.pdf

Tommy Suddard wrote:

friedgreencorrado wrote: Apologies for the attempted thread hijack...y'all just keep talking about build quality while I continue to search for "airbag delete" on the internet.

Check this out: Legal airbag delete! http://www.safercar.gov/staticfiles/DOT/safercar/pdf/ON-OFF_Switch_Request.pdf

Dang, Tommy! Nice find! I may actually buy a newish car one day, now that I've seen this..my gf's short enough that I can lie about her not making the 10" from the wheel, and she's got a 5-yr old son. "Hello, DOT...may I have both off switches, please.."

Of course, there'd still be the matter of digging all that crap out of the car to get the weight down..but I guess `beggars can't be choosers'.

ignorant wrote: no pot stirred.. Just another example of a Japanese company taking ownership and driving customer satisfaction up by fixing their vehciles on their own before they need to be told to by a court or outside agency.. That is one hell of a run on sentence. ( just playing reverse devils advocate)

WRONG! this is a NHTSA recall, not a voluntary service. NHTSA drives this, not your beloved harbor-bombing "japanese company taking ownership".

ignorant wrote: no pot stirred.. Just another example of a Japanese company taking ownership and driving customer satisfaction up by fixing their vehciles on their own before they need to be told to by a court or outside agency.. That is one hell of a run on sentence. ( just playing reverse devils advocate)

On top of what Angry posts, you should note that most recalls from OEM's are what you think the Japanese do. The problem is that it's reported as evil that cars need to be recalled, when, in fact, we are trying to make the car best for the customer.

So on one hand, we have NHTSA forcing Honda to recall their cars, and you think they are doing it for you, on the other, we voluntarily recall our cars, and you think they are crap. See the hypocracy?

E-

"can rupture because of too much air pressure causing metal fragments to shoot through the airbag and strike vehicle occupants."

Oh jeez, that doesn't sound too bad. Man up people!