porksboy wrote: My Snap-On box fell over because I had too many drawers open. Fortunatly I wasnt under it and it only leaned about 20 deg. and stopped because the bottom drawer was open and stopped it from going further.
Gravity, its not just a good idea, it's the law.
I'm surprised Consumer Reports hasn't had a special Snap On roll over issue. There weren't this many overturned Samuris
Frankly, I'm shocked to see that so many are clinging to the outdated notion of a personal responsibility for one's actions. It is true that many years ago, people had respect for the property of others, but nowadays, such respect is hopelessly quaint, conservative, and well let's face it: inconvenient.
Let's place the blame not on ourselves, but rather on the owner of the toolbox, who obviously didn't secure it in a manner that would ensure the safety of anyone who chose to open as many drawers as he needed to open. Let's blame the manufacturer, who had the audacity to manufacture a product that is inherently unsafe. For heaven's sake, somebody call a lawyer. Quickly! There is money to be made here.
Let's petition government to commission studies at taxpayer expense to examine this complex matter in greater detail. Let's require manufacturers to pay money into a fund that will be available for all the poor, innocent victims who will be maimed or killed by these heinous appliances! Oh, the humanity!
Yeah, you should man up and make it right.
ncjay wrote: Just like mom and dad always said, "You opened it, you close it." No need at all for any drawers to be open. Get what you want out and close the drawer. You don't want to hear this, but it's 100% your responsibility. If it was my tool box, I'd want it fixed also.
Yeah, you screwed up. Like my dad always said: You broke it, you bought it.
ncjay wrote: Possibly one of those paintless dent removal places can get things back to normal at a reasonable price.
Try this first. I've known several techs who had good results with it. But if it doesn't bring it to the standards expected by the owner, be prepared to pay up.
Pics of said damage, BTW if you broke, dented, scratched the thing just get it taken care of.
I'm all for making things right, but I can't help but wonder about the variables we don't have info on. The cost of the drawers might be the difference between keeping up with the mortgage or not for OP.
If he's insisting that you buy brand new drawers, I think that's unreasonable. If he's insisting that you make them look/operate the way they did before, I agree that it's time to call a PDR guy.
Datsun1500 wrote:Taiden wrote: I'm all for making things right, but I can't help but wonder about the variables we don't have info on. The cost of the drawers might be the difference between keeping up with the mortgage or not for OP.Why does that matter? He broke it. It is his fault. He needs to make it right regardless of any hardship on his end. Let's say he ran a stop sign and hit your car. He can't pay to fix your car because "it might be the difference between keeping up with the mortgage or not" Would you just say OK and let him off the hook? He broke it. No one else was there. It is his fault alone. He needs to make it right. Not what he feels is right, what the owner feels is right. Why does it seem like that is hard for some people to get?
I believe we agree. You said "he can't pay to fix your car"
Right, I would only want him to fix it. I wouldn't want him to buy me a new one. I would just want it to be the same as before he ran into me. I don't care how he gets there, as long as it's the same as before.
Sounds like Snap On box owner wants new drawers. "New" being the important word. I think that's ridiculous. I think OP should have the option to get the drawers to previous condition regardless of the method. I think PDR is a good way to go. I mean, I bet cutting out the dented metal, having new metal welded in by a talented TIG welder, and then having it powdercoated snap on red would cost less than buying new drawers.
What was the lease agreement? Did you pay a deposit? Did you pay for insurance? How did you guys agree to deal with this type of problem up front. If you didn't have any set agreement other than a handshake, it comes down to how honorable you are. Civil court can settle this but it shouldn't have to. Talk to the guy and come up with a reasonable solution. Done right you guys shouldn't have agreed to this without figuring out who was responsible in this type of situation. Usually landlords build in deposits, higher rates, renters insurance, etc... to prevent themselves from having to go to court to collect for damages.
To everyone who blindly says he should pay up: part of renting something is getting access to stuff you cannot afford. The owner of that stuff usually accepts some risk and wear on the equipment in return for the rental income.
BTW-how exactly does a box of any size fall over unless its drawers are all open and full of Anvils?
Wow, what part of the OP saying he was going to make this right/take responsibility did you guys miss? He's trying to do that with out getting royally a$$ raped by that over priced tool truck.
MrJoshua and neon4891 I agree 100%
neon4891 wrote: He's trying to do that with out getting royally a$$ raped by that over priced tool truck.
If the drawers cant be fixed he has no other option, but I know if it was my box I would always see the difference no matter how small and be pissed every time I looked at it or thought about it.
My first snap-on box cost me somewhere in the neighborhood of 7k. So paying 500 or so to replace the drawers is not that much to ask. Look at the box as you would a new car. The first scratch pisses you off and annoys the crap out of you.
Datsun1500 wrote:neon4891 wrote: Wow, what part of the OP saying he was going to make this right/take responsibility did you guys miss? He's trying to do that with out getting royally a$$ raped by that over priced tool truck.I don't know. It was either the 1st post that says "I feel like it really wasn't my fault" or the 2nd post that says "I know I should help with it" I guess my suggestion of a paintless dent repair guy was not being helpful?
I think your suggestion for PDR was brilliant. If OP can get out of having to buy brand new drawers I think this is his best option.
Taiden wrote: I bet cutting out the dented metal, having new metal welded in by a talented TIG welder, and then having it powdercoated snap on red would cost less than buying new drawers.
Wow, you think labour is cheap too.
CALL the Snap-On guy, TELL him your situation.
He may be able to help you out. I buy good, used stuff from my rep all the time. These guys do get deals occasionally.
Perhaps he has a used box that was damaged and has some good drawers. You never know.
Shawn
Trans_Maro wrote: Wow, you think labour is cheap too.
A lot of community colleges have talented tig welders. 
The drawers would have to blasted and completely re-coated.
Powdercoat isn't like paint, you can't just fog on a new coat.
Shawn
I was just sayin... that Snap On boxes are expensive. That's all. 
The dude's had the box for 6 years now....
The final bill came out to 1500 -1600 dollars
Dude is selling his business, the guys is buying everything in the shop including the box. Guys wants a discount. So the owner wants me to cover the discount on the sales agreement.
FML,,,,,
Nis14, how many drawers did you have open anyway?
As a career oaf, I promise you. Kharma is real. You obviously know what is right, it's just gonna hurt. But after that delcious meal of Ramen Noodles, you will sleep better knowing you are a good man. Fortune rewards the honorable.
Mental wrote: As a career oaf, I promise you. Kharma is real. You obviously know what is right, it's just gonna hurt. But after that delcious meal of Ramen Noodles, you will sleep better knowing you are a good man. Fortune rewards the honorable.
Thanks man, now I'm gonna go eat some Ramen. 
I had four drawers open. These are the lightest ones in the box. One drawer of sockets. One with wrenches. One with Allen wrenches and one with assorted electronic sensors. Actually were the lightest of all the drawers.
But yeah my life sucks about now.
See if you can talk to the guy buying the place into letting you try to find another method of fixing them, and to keep the price to your renter the same.
I worked for years as an engineer for Matco Tools. With our tool boxes, we were VERY clear and specific in our literature about never opening more than one drawer at a time. I know if I opened two or three particular drawers on my own Snap-On roll around, it would tip over. So it comes down to this - If the box was in good shape and on level floor, then you may of had too many drawers open and should make it right. If it was tippy to begin with, or the casters were weak and tipped, then it's not (at least entirely) your fault and you should negotiate with him.
In either case, if the drawers are just dented as you say, I think repairing them would be a fair alternative, as long as it is done properly. IMO, this would also depend on how old the box is, as if it is fairly new, I can understand why he'd want the drawers replaced versus repaired.
Taiden wrote: See if you can talk to the guy buying the place into letting you try to find another method of fixing them, and to keep the price to your renter the same.
On second thought, the chance of this working is zero to none.
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