So apparently youtube is down.

There goes my night.

In completely unrelated news: Why didn't anyone tell me how much more comfortable suspenders are than a belt?

I guess I'll have to watch my own cats for entertainment.

In reply to EastCoastMojo :

I was all set for another night of learning how little gray aliens are in fact actually interdimentional demonic spirits, and watching videos about goldfish.

I thought the app on my firestick was just acting goofy. Hooray for Motortrend On Demand!

Suspenders you say? Can you hide them under a shirt comfortably?

Oh, and that sucks about YouTube. 

In reply to Dusterbd13 :

I did that today. I wore them over an under shirt but under my button up shirt. The only issue was when taking a number 2, I had to take off the button up shirt. But that hassle  is well worth it. 

Im gonna have to try this.  Thanks!

Nope. Still watching road rage videos looking for tips and tricks.

It seems to be back now. What a relief. 

Works fine for me

It was actually a thing, I didn't make it up.

Nick Comstock said:

There goes my night.

In completely unrelated news: Why didn't anyone tell me how much more comfortable suspenders are than a belt?

Oh the benefits of being 6hours ahead, slept through it

also, it was my understanding that suspenders were to be worn with belts... not instead?

Not among hipsters. They whip out the old Henry Ford (?) quote about how you can't trust a man who doesn't even trust his own pants and look down on you from heights only obtainable with a man bun.

In reply to oldopelguy :

It's quite possible that I'm slowly becoming a hipster. I've grown a beard, ride bicycles and now wear suspenders. 

As to weather you're supposed to wear them with a belt, I have no idea. But I don't have to crush my pelvis to keep my pants from falling down anymore so I'm okay with it. 

In reply to Nick Comstock :

Wow, that's ironic.

Yea we had to go without our wood turning videos and ended up getting hooked on that new hill house series on Netflix instead. 

I saw one of my buddies post about that last night and he asked what he was going to do.

I told him to just change the first three letters and enjoy!

Re: suspenders. I wore them about 20 years ago when I wore a suit for work. My understanding is either suspenders or a belt because the purpose is the same. To keep your pants up. By the way, get buttons sewn into your pants for quality suspenders. The clasp style works ok but in my opinion just doesn't quite work as well due to the occasional unintended release.. dont even get me started on shirt stays...

sleepyhead said:

also, it was my understanding that suspenders were to be worn with belts... not instead?

"Belt and suspenders" is a synonym for "redundancy".

Yeah it ate E36 M3 just as I was uploading some videos from the Challenge.

Duke said:

sleepyhead said:

also, it was my understanding that suspenders were to be worn with belts... not instead?

"Belt and suspenders" is a synonym for "redundancy".

From a style perspective, this is true. The only time that you should be wearing belt and suspenders is when they're there for other purposes, i.e. a holster, tool belt, etc.

An old man from my moms hometown wore overalls to everything. When he had to go to a "fancy" dinner, he'd just throw a dress shirt over it and it looked like it was unbuttoned. Of course, this is in an area where folks dress slacks likely have cargo pockets.

Fortunately just before the outage I had launched a Living Colour concert. It played fine all evening. 

Duke said:

sleepyhead said:

also, it was my understanding that suspenders were to be worn with belts... not instead?

"Belt and suspenders" is a synonym for "redundancy".

maybe I tortured that reference too much for it to be funny?

I had to watch regular TV for an hour. It was beyond horrifying. 

I noticed it went down, but attributed it to the flakey internet connection at my hotel.  Gave me an excuse to go to bed on time, although I still woke up exhausted.