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Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy HalfDork
11/14/10 9:13 a.m.

So, in answer to my original question, Alonso and Webber. They both looked kinda lost out there today.

Gonna be some hard looks in the Ferrari garage about that early tire change.

Giant Purple Snorklewacker
Giant Purple Snorklewacker SuperDork
11/14/10 9:34 a.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: So, in answer to my original question, Alonso and Webber.

Actually... everyone but Vettel.

RBR is a team that does seem to do things right from a "sporting" perspective whereas McClaren and Ferrari have accumulated as many knocks for poor sportsmanship as they have collected pretty glass trophies. I'm glad they got it even if their driver is a bit much.

Kudos to Vettel and RBR. Now... if they could just get him to STFU ;)

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
11/14/10 10:09 a.m.

I just have to wonder if Weber's car was equal today, bad qualifying, bad race, that said congrats to RBR and Vettel

dammit

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
11/14/10 10:21 a.m.

Congrats to Vettel and RBR! The driver did what was needed to win and the team provided the car to get the job done. Although one has to wonder what was going on with Webber today.

Not sure where all the anti-Vettel sentiment comes from; he's not as obnoxious as Hamilton, IMHO. Yes, he made some mistakes this season, but what contender didn't? Seb certainly matured a lot as the season progressed.

And, Ferrari "strategery" fails - again.

Platinum90
Platinum90 SuperDork
11/14/10 11:06 a.m.

Yeah, thanks for the quote mike. Makes me feel berkeleying great!

Someone on the Ferrari pit wall called a cockup of a race today. If Fernando had stayed on Jenson's strategy, he would have been fine. Ferrari got too worried about Webber, they didn't pay attention to the big picture...

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
11/14/10 11:58 a.m.
Platinum90 wrote: Yeah, thanks for the quote mike. Makes me feel berkeleying great! Someone on the Ferrari pit wall called a cockup of a race today. If Fernando had stayed on Jenson's strategy, he would have been fine. Ferrari got too worried about Webber, they didn't pay attention to the big picture...

It's OK man, I feel your pain. I am a Ferrari fan through-and-through. I actually can't stand Vettel. I would have been happy if Webber had won though, he certainly deserved it.

Streetwiseguy
Streetwiseguy HalfDork
11/14/10 12:21 p.m.
Giant Purple Snorklewacker wrote:
Streetwiseguy wrote: So, in answer to my original question, Alonso and Webber.
Actually... everyone but Vettel.

I don't think Lewis really did anything wrong. He needed to stay in touch with the lead, because his only real hope was for all 3 other contenders to crash or break. That track looks like it was a cast iron bitch to pass on. WAYYY too many chicanes.

triumph5
triumph5 HalfDork
11/14/10 1:40 p.m.

F1 is over for now, winter is here.Plant face in hands....but NHRA finals on tonight!! And Mr. Force is on his game. Love the mechanicals involved... Do I need a 12 step program?

Matt B
Matt B HalfDork
11/14/10 1:44 p.m.
Streetwiseguy wrote: That track looks like it was a cast iron bitch to pass on. WAYYY too many chicanes.

Funny you mention that. During the pre-race show they did the usual review of the track map and pointed out at least 3 different points to pass. I thought it was probably my noob-ness, but I thought to myself, "uh, besides 1 spot I don't see it".

Isn't that same guy designing the Austin track?

oldsaw
oldsaw SuperDork
11/14/10 2:10 p.m.

in reply to Matt B:

Tilke is the designer, but his employers have specifically told him to build a natural-terrain road course - and have provided him with land that actually has real countour. Part of the concept is to incorporate track sections that mimic parts of traditional "drivers' circuits" with long, flowing and FAST curves.

Here's a look at the Austin lay-out (and notice the elevations):

I'm not a Tilke apologist but one has to realize the man has been hamstrung by safety demands from the FIA and he can only use the land he's given. If the Abu Dhabi organizers had a bit more vision, they'd have moved a lot more dirt and built an island with actual elevation changes. Then again, maybe the concept of "hills" doesn't exist in their psyche - it's not like their desert has that many of them.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg SuperDork
11/14/10 7:00 p.m.

Abu Dhabi hills are called "Moguls"

Matt B
Matt B HalfDork
11/15/10 7:58 a.m.

Excellent points and good news abounds. That track looks like quite a bit of fun. Elevation changes FTW.

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