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NEALSMO
NEALSMO UltraDork
10/19/16 11:40 a.m.

I won't advertise my political views on my car or at my house. I don't need any crazies vandalizing or stealing my E36 M3.

Just 3 more weeks and we'll be back to our normal level of crazy...

Furious_E
Furious_E GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/19/16 11:48 a.m.

I don't get the point of the signs and find them somewhat obnoxious. They just seem like an ugly, somewhat tacky waste to me. The odds of changing someone's political viewpoints in a thoughtful, face-to-face debate is pretty much slim to none, so a piece of plastic stuck in your front lawn is supposed to do the trick? I guess it works to get the candidate's name out there, but I really only see the utility of that in a less publicized, local election. So I guess it's just nothing more than a way to show one's allegiance to a particular candidate or party then?

I will have to grab a few post-election though for potential future aero projects.

Fueled by Caffeine
Fueled by Caffeine MegaDork
10/19/16 11:56 a.m.

my HOA bans political signs. Score 1 for the HOA.

RossD
RossD UltimaDork
10/19/16 12:00 p.m.

On a side note, I voted early because I went to get a burn permit and they, at the town hall, offered. It was sweet. No lines!

ProDarwin
ProDarwin PowerDork
10/19/16 12:15 p.m.
Furious_E wrote: So I guess it's just nothing more than a way to show one's allegiance to a particular candidate or party then?

Mostly. Do you not show support for anything else?

Nick (Bo) Comstock
Nick (Bo) Comstock UltimaDork
10/19/16 12:16 p.m.

I seriously can't understand how anyone could be so motivated by any of the candidates running that they would feel the need to display a sign. That's like arguing over which STD is better. Here's a hint. They all suck and having no STD is better than having any STD.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/19/16 12:27 p.m.

OK, I’ve taken a metaphorical chill pill and am less mad. Upset and angry, but not hopping mad.

EvanR wrote: Everyone is in favor of free speech... until they don't like the speech.

Nope, I’m fine with free speech, I saw opposition signs, I didn’t steal them, I didn’t deface them or start shouting obscenities in their faces, I simply left them alone and exercised my right to free speech that someone else apparently doesn’t like.

T.J. wrote: The funny thing is, that no matter which way one leans politically, the general assumption will tend to be that it was 'the other guys' who stole the sign. Brilliant.

Nope again. Notice I didn’t post until nearly lunch time, not at 5:30am. My first assumption it was a neighbor having fun with me. Series of texts and phone calls and it’s not either neighbor or over the road berkeleying around with me. It could be kids, but it’s out of character if it is. Five years ago some of the high school cheerleaders TP’d a tree in the front yard of a high school football players house. 15 years ago some collage kids home for Homecoming had too much to drink and knocked over some early Halloween decorations. That’s it. This is not a high crime area. I’m not aware of a single break in around our subdivision or surrounding area in the 17 years I’ve lived in the house, let alone the 24 years my wife has been in it. Hell, I leave a box of old rotors, knuckles, control arms etc. out on trash night with a note ‘Free Scrap metal’ and the trash pickers still knock on the door to make sure it’s OK to take it. Crime is a zero issue around here. So no, it’s not a big deal in the grand scheme of things, but it’s completely out of character for the area or the people who live here. Also the way our sub is designed you have to be from one of about 90 houses to ever see the sign in the first place, and it woudl be a stretch for half of them to notice as there is another way in, and no it's not a through road to somewhere else. So yes, I put two and two together to assume I’ve come up with four, I may have come up with five but I doubt it.

Fueled by Caffeine wrote: my HOA bans political signs. Score 1 for the HOA.

Possibly the first time those words have ever been uttered!

Huckleberry wrote: Seriously though - you think they would be giving them away to anyone and everyone who would display one. Getting someone to pay to advertise for you is some mad PT Barnum skills.

It’s like donating to my local public radio station. I don’t need to pay $100 for an NPR travel mug, but I do it to support something I believe in and it gives me something to proclaim my support. I don’t need to pay for a yard sign but I want to give to the party and would do with no sign (I did this in the primary for a candidate that didn’t get the party nod) Or I could get a sign without paying, but I want to give and I want to show support, especially since the opposition sign appeared around the corner and I wanted to show some balance in the neighborhood.

Keith Tanner wrote: There's one sign in our neighborhood, and it's on the lawn of the president of the league of republican women's voters or something like that so it's kind of redundant. I want to get a few Canadian election signs and put them up to mess with people, especially the generic red capital-L Liberal ones.

That would be hilarious. Please please do it and post pics. You will win the internet (again)

foxtrapper
foxtrapper UltimaDork
10/19/16 12:30 p.m.
Adrian_Thompson wrote: So I have to assume it’s the people round the corner, they moved in about six months ago and I really don’t know them.

That's a heck of a basis.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/19/16 12:32 p.m.
foxtrapper wrote:
Adrian_Thompson wrote: So I have to assume it’s the people round the corner, they moved in about six months ago and I really don’t know them.
That's a heck of a basis.

Agreed, I may be off base, but I've explained why.

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/19/16 12:37 p.m.

Whether or not the candidates meet everyone's approval, Andrian is correct: People shouldn't be stealing stuff from his yard.

What's the solution? I dunno. There's a house near the office with several political signs out front. They also have a sign stating that they're videoing those signs. Is it a deterrent? Maybe? I dunno. Although, really, are they going to look at the tape and say, "Hey, so-and-so stole our signs!"

My take: Be respectful to others and treat them as you'd like to be treated.

KyAllroad
KyAllroad UberDork
10/19/16 12:40 p.m.
David S. Wallens wrote: My take: Be respectful to others and treat them as you'd like to be treated.

Hippy.

Adrian_Thompson
Adrian_Thompson MegaDork
10/19/16 12:42 p.m.
KyAllroad wrote:
David S. Wallens wrote: My take: Be respectful to others and treat them as you'd like to be treated.
Hippy.

I prefer granola eating liberal elitist if you don't mind.

wvumtnbkr
wvumtnbkr GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/19/16 12:45 p.m.

I hate those signs. Really.

Not one has ever done anything except rot away in dump somewhere.

Nobody has ever said... "Hmmm, I think I will change who I am voting for because of that sign".

It also seems weird that people proclaim who they are supporting. What is the point? What do the signs say about anything?

Stop the trash. Stop the signs. At least, take it down after the election.

iceracer
iceracer PowerDork
10/19/16 12:54 p.m.

In reply to David S. Wallens:

Sounds like the "Golden Rule"

GameboyRMH
GameboyRMH GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/19/16 12:57 p.m.
Javelin wrote:
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: Maybe they needed material for an undertray?
I can't wait for free coroplast day this year, I'm going to make my aero great again!

You need to build an air dam, to keep out the airflows that are TURKIN UR DOWNFORZ, and make the atmosphere pay for it!

T.J.
T.J. UltimaDork
10/19/16 1:00 p.m.

In reply to Adrian_Thompson:

I was 't refering to you. You know what sign you had in your yard that was taken. I was referring to the rest of us. All of us can read your post and say, 'those bastards' but we may have different notions of who they are depending on which way we lean.

stuart in mn
stuart in mn UltimaDork
10/19/16 1:05 p.m.

There's a guy in a Minneapolis suburb running for county commissioner. His name is Dave Beer, and his yard signs say, "Vote for Beer."

They're being stolen by the hundreds.

mtn
mtn MegaDork
10/19/16 1:10 p.m.

The one good thing I've seen from the piss poor candidates this election is that no one is really putting up signs either way.

There is someone down the block from me that has every inch of their lawn decorated with signs. A lot of repeats. I'm tempted to go and replace one or two with an Dukakis/Bentsen or Perot/Stockdale.

Mostly I just find it tacky though.

SilverFleet
SilverFleet UberDork
10/19/16 1:32 p.m.

Speaking of signs...

This is the first election in a LONG time that I've seen people around here get riled up enough that they are skipping the "donate and get a lawn sign" route and making their own out of various things.

For example, there's a guy on my way home from work that has a tree in his front yard. He's been nailing various signs to said tree for the past year. The first one was small, and was made of plywood. He has since taken that one down and put up another larger sign that appears to be a cut up headboard for a bed with a political slogan scrawled out on it. He must have been pretty angry.

But last week, he added to his sign collection by attaching another to that tree. This time, it looks like he got angry enough at the election cycle to get out a Sawzall and cut a section of 70's era wood paneling off his basement walls and scrawled another slogan into it, this time in blood red paint.

I still can't tell if that second one is a political sign or a Halloween decoration. I've never been pissed off enough about anything to voluntarily carve parts of my house up to make into signs, have you?

David S. Wallens
David S. Wallens Editorial Director
10/19/16 2:06 p.m.
iceracer wrote: In reply to David S. Wallens: Sounds like the "Golden Rule"

I know, crazy.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/19/16 2:16 p.m.
SilverFleet wrote: Speaking of signs... This is the first election in a LONG time that I've seen people around here get riled up enough that they are skipping the "donate and get a lawn sign" route and making their own out of various things. For example, there's a guy on my way home from work that has a tree in his front yard. He's been nailing various signs to said tree for the past year. The first one was small, and was made of plywood. He has since taken that one down and put up another larger sign that appears to be a cut up headboard for a bed with a political slogan scrawled out on it. He must have been pretty angry. But last week, he added to his sign collection by attaching another to that tree. This time, it looks like he got angry enough at the election cycle to get out a Sawzall and cut a section of 70's era wood paneling off his basement walls and scrawled another slogan into it, this time in blood red paint. I still can't tell if that second one is a political sign or a Halloween decoration. I've never been pissed off enough about anything to voluntarily carve parts of my house up to make into signs, have you?

sounds like our local Fundy.. there is a guy around here who drives older S10 based blazer who is constantly putting up "jesus loves you" signs on old plywood.

It would be annoying, but because he tries to cram 4 or 5 different messages onto a 4x4 sign, it becomes ironic and hilarious. On one sign I once saw "jesus loves you" "love god, love jesus" "love the Police" and another "love jesus" all spray painted onto a 4x4 scrap of plywood

RX Reven'
RX Reven' GRM+ Memberand Dork
10/19/16 2:57 p.m.
Huckleberry wrote: Getting someone to pay to advertise for you is some mad PT Barnum skills.

joey48442
joey48442 PowerDork
10/19/16 3:10 p.m.

Interestingly, Adrian, my Grandfather and a good friend of mine live near each other in the same county as you... Both of the lean to opposite sides of the political spectrum. And both had their signs stolen within a few days of each other! I joked it was them messing with each other but in reality neither of them would do such a thing.

Joey

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
10/19/16 3:11 p.m.

Talk about first world problems.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwvlbJ0h35A

tuna55
tuna55 MegaDork
10/19/16 3:13 p.m.

I met a guy who agreed with my presidential primary choice a few years back. He said he had a sign in his lawn. I asked if he had any trouble getting one, since I had to order them as my local office was out of them, and he told me that he just grabbed it from another street.

He didn't seem to understand why this was a bad idea.

So it may have been a thief which agrees with you and just has very curious moral standards.

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