I've never heard of these. The world is so big and there is so much to see.
Also, this is berkeleying terrifying. The world is collapsing! Yay!
I've never heard of these. The world is so big and there is so much to see.
Also, this is berkeleying terrifying. The world is collapsing! Yay!
Turbo_Rev said:It happened in 1616 and everyone is still here.
Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still cities with people living in them, too.
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to 03Panther :
The ruling class always does okay.
For varying levels of "okay". The Black Death really hurt the ruling class in Europe because it killed the serf system. Danged commonfolk realized that their labor was now worth more money and they insisted on getting it, they no longer accepted that working hard for no return.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still cities with people living in them, too.
I may be wrong, but I'm not sure that drought caused that.
03Panther said:Pete. (l33t FS) said:Hiroshima and Nagasaki are still cities with people living in them, too.
I may be wrong, but I'm not sure that drought caused that.
It was a rapid onset heat wave.
(this is one of those weird things I think about sometimes... I have three cars built in Hiroshima that are older now than the great firework was when the cars were built. And the company that made those cars became prosperous in part because it was one of the few bits of industry left standing, so the engineering/labor talent flocked there for lack of anywhere else to work)
((The midpoint, incidentally, is currently Feb. 1984. My newest Mazda was built in Sept. '83)
Pete. (l33t FS) said:... I have three cars built in Hiroshima that are older now than the great firework was when the cars were built. And the company that made those cars became prosperous in part because it was one of the few bits of industry left standing, so the engineering/labor talent flocked there for lack of anywhere else to work)...
That is also likely because Hiroshima was completely untouched by bombing before the A-bomb. One of the primary reasons why it was selected. The overpressure of the bomb did not do the majority of the physical damage you see, it was the fire, so a factory, not near ground zero should survive rather well. Most Japanese building of the time where made of wood, so fire could do tremendous damage, thus the fire bombing of Tokyo was actually deadlier than the atomic attack on Hiroshima and did far more damage.
Hiroshima ~80.000 dead:
Tokyo. You can see intact brick buildings and some pockets of unburnt wood ones, the rest is flat. A tremendous amount of damage ~100,00 dead:
Turbo_Rev said:In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Has the world since collapsed because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
I am sure that it did for the individuals of the cities.
I mean, yeah, 2/3rd of Europe survived the plague, too.
Turbo_Rev said:In reply to Pete. (l33t FS) :
Has the world since collapsed because of Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
The world didn't collapse because of the black plague, but I am still very glad to not be living through it. I find there is an enormous difference between "suffering nearly endlessly" and "having an enjoyable existence."
Folks that died at Pearl Harbor probably didn't care for how it all went down either.
Not sure what any of that has to do with the Elbe river being a bit low...
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