This explains the news lately (anti-propaganda ban lifted... July 2013)

oldsaw wrote:

Fueled by Caffeine wrote:

Flight Service wrote: As far as me being right and everyone else being wrong. It wouldn't be the first time.

I like this guy

Of course you would... But then you're the guy who asked for help with a simple question. Thankfully, that thread has received its' deserved demise but it raised suspicions about self-proclaimed superior intellect or the denial of a subtle approach to starting some e36m3.

You gotta stop looking for conspiracies. All that worry can't be good for you.

As for my name, if it would make you and about a half dozen other people who are still butt hurt about my past behavior, I am happy to change it back. It doesn't bother me in the least. Fueled by caffeine just fits my life style now. Three kids one an infant and 12 hours a day at a tech giant. Coffee is my only savior. Well that and wine from the walls walls valley.

And For the other thread. That was legitimate. A older black guy was pulling me aside to help not get me fired at a plant down south. I was fresh out I my job up north and cursed like a trucker constantly. The culture of the organization I worked for allowed for those who "offened" someone to be walked out the next day. That guy saved my job.

But hey. I've said stuff like this to you before and I'm wasting my breath.

Don't even know why I hang around here anymore. I haven't had a fun car in years.

In reply to Flight Service:

1. I'm blessed/cursed with a good memory. I consider the history with FBC as contentious but not hostile. It dates back to 2008's economic collapse and the emergence of a future POTUS. At the time, the GOP was the public whipping-boy but I contended (still do) that that the bad stuff of 2008 resulted from years of (sometimes) well-intended, often politically self-serving policies from both parties. Additionally, my political ideology does not embrace the belief that government always has the best answer and that put(s) me at odds with those holdng an opposite view. Because the 2008 Presidential election included the nation's first black candidate, a lot of people wanted to see racism as the reason for not supporting that candidate. They were (still are) very, very wrong.

2. I've always been a night person who doesn't turn off the lights until 1-2AM and functions well with 5-6 hours of sleep.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine:

Trust me, your motivations don't worry me.

Choose the name you want. The most impressive thing is that a few years and a few kids have resulted in less hubris and more humility; that is a good thing.

Thanks for fleshing-out the story behind the "other" thread. The extra background changes the perspective and it's really appreciated. I totally get the culture-shock aspect because I experienced it too, just at a much younger age and with no career in the mix.

For the record, I grew up in lily-white, rural CT. When I was 16, the family relocated to the outskirts of Atlanta. To more than a few people I was a damn Yankee interloper and that helped shape my perspective and interactions with "people of color". I still live in suburban Atlanta in an area where I am part of very small minority but my neighbors are good people and I actually like and respect them. I do not like insinuations of racism when there is nothing to support them.

Respect is a two-way street and we can all do better to improve traffic flow. You're not wasting your breath and you should stick around, you're a lot more fun now.

oldsaw wrote: In reply to Flight Service: 1. I'm blessed/cursed with a good memory. I consider the history with FBC as contentious but not hostile. It dates back to 2008's economic collapse and the emergence of a future POTUS. At the time, the GOP was the public whipping-boy but I contended (still do) that that the bad stuff of 2008 resulted from years of (sometimes) well-intended, often politically self-serving policies from both parties. Additionally, my political ideology does not embrace the belief that government always has the best answer and that put(s) me at odds with those holdng an opposite view. Because the 2008 Presidential election included the nation's first black candidate, a lot of people wanted to see racism as the reason for not supporting that candidate. They were (still are) very, very wrong. 2. I've always been a night person who doesn't turn off the lights until 1-2AM and functions well with 5-6 hours of sleep.

Given a large percentage of Obama's policies are dusted off 90's era Republican ideas, there is some merit to the thought, (which is also one of the reasons many democrats are pissed at Obama.) I know people who have agreed with in the past 90 percent of Obama's policies and then Obama got in and they were all against him. Either it is party-ism or racism, take your pick. In the end, I really don't give a E36 M3. I have a problem with an entire party saying we will oppose everything the President does. I honestly believe that members of congress should be brought up on sedition charges for that, (especially when there are tapes with them saying they will oppose everything.) Ahh, but that is a world in which we will never live.

I believe our government should be efficient and has a job to do. Not everything, but they do have a job to do. It is probably more than you think they should do but a hell of alot less than what FoxNews/Tea Baggers accuse them of doing.

I don't know. I know I will run again, so I take the "If you don't vote, don't bitch" idea quite seriously.

Back on Topic

The Washington Post did a survey (mind you this is trust, not bias)

Rush Limbaugh is America’s least-trusted news source

In reply to Flight Service:

You're going to trust a poll that doesn't identify the political leanings of its' respondents?

And then:

Flight Service said: It is probably more than you think they should do but a hell of alot less than what FoxNews/Tea Baggers accuse them of doing.

Teabaggers? Really? Five years beyond and you're still using a tired, childish trope in a recipe for weaksauce. That's sad...

In reply to Flight Service:

Show of hands.......who here seriously believes a "poll" finding when it includes 2 SATIRICAL COMEDY SHOWS as news sources.

yamaha wrote: In reply to Flight Service: Show of hands.......who here seriously believes a "poll" finding when it includes 2 SATIRICAL COMEDY SHOWS as news sources.

Most millennials will tell you they get most of their news from "The Daily show" or something similar. Apparently my google fu finds an IU study that backs this up..

http://newsinfo.iu.edu/news-archive/4159.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/young-get-news-from-comedy-central/

take it for what you will, but a lot of folks consider "The Daily Show" as a news source.

I'll take a comedy show that delivers news over a "news" show that delivers comedy any day.

In reply to Fueled by Caffeine:

My generation is unfortunately full dipE36 M3s that were taught the common core and have no bearing on what satire is.....the sad thing is, this will only get even worse. Idiocracy is coming, protect your balls and prepare for Brawndo and Extra BigAss everything.

If only

Common core has just barely started. The current generation is educated on "no child left behind". Umm yeh, let's have a proud 'C' student push an education agenda

I doubt you'll find anything put out by John Stewart that isn't factual. It's still news, just put out in a comedic way. The alternative is an entertainment channel posing as a news station. That's berkeleying scary considering the mouth breathers that take it as fact.

At least Jon Stewart is funny when he delivers his made up news stories

Flight Service wrote: Back on Topic The Washington Post did a survey (mind you this is trust, not bias) Rush Limbaugh is America’s least-trusted news source

Pew Study found something similar: http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/article/2014/oct/21/pew-study-finds-rush-limbaugh-least-trustworthy-ne/

Derp the Washington Post article was just saying the same thing. I tend to believe Politifact when it comes to most stuff.

yamaha wrote: In reply to Fueled by Caffeine: My generation is unfortunately full dipE36 M3s that were taught the common core

what does common core have to do with this? As pointed out NCLB has been the rule of the land for some time.

Fueled by Caffeine wrote:

yamaha wrote: In reply to Fueled by Caffeine: My generation is unfortunately full dipE36 M3s that were taught the common core

what does common core have to do with this? As pointed out NCLB has been the rule of the land for some time.

Because Obama!

At least "Common Core" sounds like a good system for education. "No Child Left Behind" sounds like a really bad Kirk Cameron (or Nick Cage)movie

yamaha wrote: Show of hands.......who here seriously believes a "poll" finding when it includes 2 SATIRICAL COMEDY SHOWS as news sources.

I would argue that Hannity isn't all that funny.

Cone_Junkie wrote:

Fueled by Caffeine wrote:

yamaha wrote: In reply to Fueled by Caffeine: My generation is unfortunately full dipE36 M3s that were taught the common core

what does common core have to do with this? As pointed out NCLB has been the rule of the land for some time.

Because Obama! At least "Common Core" sounds like a good system for education. "No Child Left Behind" sounds like a really bad Kirk Cameron (or Nick Cage)movie

yamaha wrote: In reply to Flight Service: Show of hands.......who here seriously believes a "poll" finding when it includes 2 SATIRICAL COMEDY SHOWS as news sources.

This wasn't a survey of accuracy or bias, but trust. I think it says volumes that two satirical new comedies are trusted more than news outlets.

oldsaw wrote: In reply to Flight Service: You're going to trust a poll that doesn't identify the political leanings of its' respondents? And then:

Flight Service said: It is probably more than you think they should do but a hell of alot less than what FoxNews/Tea Baggers accuse them of doing.

Teabaggers? Really? Five years beyond and you're still using a tired, childish trope in a recipe for weaksauce. That's sad...

Hey as long as they referred to themselves as that, I can refer to them as that. Thanks for showing your side though!

And it is the PPP research, identified in the article. Remember this isn't bias but trust.

Edit: Here Oldsaw I will your Koch Funded delusion of a party something fun to kid about at your next party.

Louisiana Democrats used to have a Rooster as the party symbol before we adopted the Donkey. So before we were a bunch of asses we were a bunch of cocks.

In reply to Flight Service:

But, but, it doesn't support MY opinion, so it has to be biased!

Cone_Junkie wrote: In reply to Flight Service: But, but, it doesn't support MY opinion, so it has to be biased!

but but but it was about trust not bias. I don't understand? Obama deserved that Peace Prize!

"Perception is reality, Facts can be negotiated." ~ Me.

Flight Service said: Hey as long as they referred to themselves as that, I can refer to them as that. Thanks for showing your side though!

What was in the koolaid when you had that hallucination?

Flight Service said: And it is the PPP research, identified in the article. Remember this isn't bias but trust.

You're right; I found that section of the poll analysis.

Flight Service said: Edit: Here Oldsaw I will your Koch Funded delusion of a party something fun to kid about at your next party.

You have a Koch addiction, too? Why push to legalize drugs when you are clearly getting as much you want now.

Flight Service said: Louisiana Democrats used to have a Rooster as the party symbol before we adopted the Donkey. So before we were a bunch of asses we were a bunch of cocks.

Actually, a Dr. Moreau creation using both seems more accurate.

As civil as this has been, I feel it's starting to devolve a little into some kind of witty political affiliation pissing match. The one who owns the patio may be watching...

Only 8% of the respondents who were aware of Limbaugh say they "get news from" the show. Only 12% of those aware of Stewart's show use it for "news". It looks like 92%/88% of the respondents are smarter than some folks adding to this thread.

The good news for liberals is that they have many more sources than conservatives to find the "news" they want.

I am just messing with Oldsaw. Given he lives around Stone Mountain, assumptions about him are more like educated guesses based on data.

Like he is old and will vote for someone who thinks he should not have healthcare and work till he is 70.