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BARNCA
BARNCA Dork
10/21/12 2:50 p.m.

http://news.yahoo.com/okla-girl-12-shoots-intruder-during-home-burglary-120453440--abc-news-topstories.html

EricM
EricM SuperDork
10/21/12 3:04 p.m.

Hero?

Years of therapy to cope with the post traumatic shock.

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/21/12 3:16 p.m.

My question is this... why was there an unsecured locked and loaded gun in the house that the child had not been shown how to properly handle, nor had ever shot before. My niece was shooting with us at 6, and knows the proper answer if someone besides a LEO asks if there are guns in the house.

But otherwise, indeed good job kid!

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Reader
10/21/12 3:21 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: My question is this... why was there an unsecured locked and loaded gun in the house that the child had not been shown how to properly handle, nor had ever shot before. But otherwise, indeed good job kid!

This, gun handling should really be a class in middle school.

carguy123
carguy123 PowerDork
10/21/12 3:46 p.m.
EricM wrote: Hero? Years of therapy to cope with the post traumatic shock.

Post traumatic shock? Here's her quote

"I think it's going to change me a whole lot, knowing that I can hold my head up high and nothing can hurt me anymore."

Forget Junior High, gun control ought to be taught in the home at an early age. Familiarity with them eliminates most of the issues you read about in the newspapers. Remember the media doesn't report the ordinary, they only report things that go way wrong.

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic Reader
10/21/12 4:13 p.m.

It should, but so should a lot of things that end up having to be taught in school.

bastomatic
bastomatic Dork
10/21/12 4:19 p.m.

She shot through the closed closet door. Doubt we'd be singing her praises if it was a deputy on the other side.

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/21/12 6:14 p.m.

Most deputies don't burglarize houses.

Zomby Woof
Zomby Woof UberDork
10/21/12 6:17 p.m.

This should end well.

aircooled
aircooled PowerDork
10/21/12 6:24 p.m.
Spinout007 wrote: My question is this... why was there an unsecured locked and loaded gun in the house that the child had not been shown how to properly handle, nor had ever shot before...

It sounds like she did know how to use the gun. Or the gun was left unlocked, safety off, bullet in the chamber with the hammer back (if that is applicable here).

It said she had never fired a gun, not that she did not know how to handle one.

novaderrik
novaderrik UltraDork
10/21/12 6:57 p.m.
EricM wrote: Hero? Years of therapy to cope with the post traumatic shock.

you must have posted as "Florian" in the comments section of that article..

better to be alive and have to deal with that than be dead or have to deal with the trauma of being beaten or sexually assaulted..

carguy123
carguy123 PowerDork
10/21/12 8:06 p.m.
bastomatic wrote: She shot through the closed closet door. Doubt we'd be singing her praises if it was a deputy on the other side.

Based upon the circumstances that wasn't likely at all plus Deputies would announce themselves. This guy was announcing himself in a completely different way.

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
10/21/12 9:19 p.m.

Glad it wasn't her Dad.

Glad she's OK. Some states would prosecute the parents for the gun security issues.

Tom Suddard
Tom Suddard GRM+ Memberand Intern
10/21/12 9:35 p.m.

She knew where the gun was and how to use it; her mom obviously taught her how to handle a gun. Props to the girl, props to the mom, props to the criminal (I like it when they get beaten by 12-year-olds).

Spinout007
Spinout007 GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
10/22/12 7:23 a.m.
aircooled wrote:
Spinout007 wrote: My question is this... why was there an unsecured locked and loaded gun in the house that the child had not been shown how to properly handle, nor had ever shot before...
It sounds like she did know how to use the gun. Or the gun was left unlocked, safety off, bullet in the chamber with the hammer back (if that is applicable here). It said she had never fired a gun, not that she did not know how to handle one.

Unfortunately society as a whole understands the end with the hole goes boom. My niece complained to no end about not getting to shoot right away, but a long time was spent making sure she understood how to check to see if its loaded, safety, how to properly clear a chamber. Then she was allowed to shoot. And we still practice it when we go to the range. Heck its good practice for me as well, and I do it anytime someone hands me a gun.

And no glocks don't have a hammer that you can draw back per se, once it has a round in the chamber, its good to go. I've got a friend who knows that all to well, thankfully no one got hurt besides the wall with that one.

PHeller
PHeller UltraDork
10/22/12 7:49 a.m.

We had a story locally of a 13 year old who killed his grandparents with their gun just because they were trying to make a better kid out of him.

N Sperlo
N Sperlo PowerDork
10/22/12 8:18 a.m.
carguy123 wrote:
EricM wrote: Hero? Years of therapy to cope with the post traumatic shock.
Post traumatic shock? Here's her quote "I think it's going to change me a whole lot, knowing that I can hold my head up high and nothing can hurt me anymore." Forget Junior High, gun control ought to be taught in the home at an early age. Familiarity with them eliminates most of the issues you read about in the newspapers. Remember the media doesn't report the ordinary, they only report things that go way wrong.

100% agree. I'll bet there are some mistakes in the article. I would put money on her having shot the gun before, but not in self defense.

As for the comment about her possibly shooting the deputy, there is a reason law enforcement announces themselves upon entry of every room.

psteav
psteav GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
10/22/12 9:06 a.m.
PHeller wrote: We had a story locally of a 13 year old who killed his grandparents with their gun just because they were trying to make a better kid out of him.

Wow, that's some seriously compelling evidence right there.

First of all, he killed them BOTH? As in two shots? I think that speaks more to a disturbed child rather than a shooting accident. Link to a news story?

EDITED to remove political content. I'm no fan of patios.

aussiesmg
aussiesmg UltimaDork
10/22/12 9:08 a.m.
bastomatic wrote: She shot through the closed closet door. Doubt we'd be singing her praises if it was a deputy on the other side.

Did you even read the article she was on the phone to 911.

Jerry From LA
Jerry From LA Dork
10/22/12 9:58 a.m.

sachilles
sachilles SuperDork
10/22/12 10:10 a.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: This, gun handling should really be a class in middle school.

In vermont we have hunter safety courses, and you are able to take them at that age. It goes over safe firearm use, but is concentrated on rifle. I think I was either in 5th or 6th grade when I took it. We had to put three shots on target, before certification. My high school also had a rifle team, until fairly recent budget cuts.

I suspect other rural regions where hunting is a little more common, have similar programs. In general I think rural communities have a little more familiarization with guns compared to city folk.

I'm probably biased. We had a gun cabinet filled with rifles and shotguns when I was a kid. Everyone in my family was familiar with their use.

It's different for folks in urban areas, I'll concede that. However, I think it demonstrates that guns themselves are not necessarily evil. For many a gun is tool just like a hammer, saw or wrench.

pres589
pres589 SuperDork
10/22/12 10:35 a.m.
This, gun handling should really be a class in middle school.
  1. What?
  2. No.
  3. Am I about to be thrown under a patio?
Cone_Junky
Cone_Junky Dork
10/22/12 12:56 p.m.

I applaud her for protecting herself, but she is not an any way my hero.

I would have told her to leave the house

racerfink
racerfink SuperDork
10/22/12 1:10 p.m.

In reply to Cone_Junky: that makes absolutely NO sense.

carguy123
carguy123 PowerDork
10/22/12 2:58 p.m.
Cone_Junky wrote: I applaud her for protecting herself, but she is not an any way my hero. I would have told her to leave the house

So you would have put her in plain view of the intruder?

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