Truett Cathy died this morning...

I spent 3 hours with the man. I didn't know him, but he left a great impression.

When Joe Lieberman says he won't work or campaign on the Sabbath, he is hailed for his convictions.

When Truett Cathy makes a business decision to sacrifice 1 weekend day of business every week (which costs over $700 million every year I n lost revenues), he's a bigot.

Then add a few post mortum insults to seal the deal and prove how big your peckers are. Some of you never quit.

He is a man of conviction, who put his money where his mouth is. Some of you need to do the same. Anybody put 14% of their revenue recently into something they believe in?

Insulting a dead man is shameful.

Edited for bad math.

Uh, I don't think anybody has a problem with the whole Sunday thing.

SVreX wrote: When Truett Cathy makes a business decision to sacrifice 1 weekend day of business every week (which costs over $700 million every week in lost revenues), he's a bigot.

He was a bigot because of discriminatory hiring practices, NOT his hours of operation...

Also: IBTL

How many people here are confusing Truett Cathy with Dan Cathy? And "controversial way of running a business"? What's so controversial about the way they run their private business? I can tell you they are run better than any other restaurant chain I have ever dealt with. I guess some of you hate good service. Since when can neither of these men have an opinion? When it disagrees with yours?

spitfirebill wrote: How many people here are confusing Truett Cathy with Dan Cathy?

True, I ASSumed the apple didn't fall far from the tree, but I am Mistaken.

Truett Cathy has not run Chick fil A since 2001. His son Dan has.

The comments about same sex marriage were not made by Truett. They were made by Dan in 2012.

What discriminatory hiring practices???

But Truett is a bigot, because the internet says so.

Nobody - and I mean nobody - has a problem with them staying closed on Sundays. Let me repeat that: nobody. Nobody sane, anyway.

Autolex wrote:

spitfirebill wrote: How many people here are confusing Truett Cathy with Dan Cathy?

True, I ASSumed the apple didn't fall far from the tree, but I am Mistaken.

In fact, the apple didn't fall very far from the tree. Truett's foundation, in addition to fostering several hundred kids, also contributes millions to anti-homosexual causes.

That being said, it's the Cathys' money and the Cathys' company. What they do with it is their right.

GameboyRMH wrote: ....I think he made smart and benevolent decisions to keep his company private and stay closed on Sundays.

That's the big one. Of course, even privately held companies can run into the "money is the master" problem if they have an owner or board (e.g. Market Basket) that swings that way.

Sigh.... Raise your hand if you could see this thread going off the rails the second it was posted.

I don't see that it's gone off the rails. I see that a person chose to use his position and wealth to espouse a particular viewpoint. Both are well within his rights, but that does not make his - or anybody's - viewpoint immune to criticism.

Most here have admired his dedication even while disapproving of his viewpoint.

What a bunch of knee-jerk reactionary BS. I'm really disappointed in many in this group. I'm also laughing so damned hard right now.

I didn't comment on the death thread for that piece of plastic that passed recently because I had nothing nice to say, I'd think some of you might have been smart enough to do the same here. Obviously not. :/

You have a choice as a consumer, eat there or don't. I don't. Much like WalMart, Jalopnik, etc., I voted with my dollar. However, that doesn't mean I'm going to piss on the guy's grave. Way too much hate and disrespect around the world these days and I'm finding more and more of it creeping into this site.

I find chik-fil-a mediocre at best. That's all I have to say about that. I do like the pickle on the sammich though.

Matt B wrote: In reply to bravenrace: Maybe you're seeing something different in this thread than I am. Considering the controversial way he operated in the last few years it's been pretty tame. Most of the posts have been about exactly what you're pointing out - the way he lived according to his principles. Are we only allowed to discuss certain principles that show him in a universally-liked way? My point is, he put his money, his company, and public persona behind a social/political issue that's been pretty divisive. That was his choice. His memory is forever tied to that issue. Again, for better or for worse.

It took me a long time, but eventually I learned to not judge people I knew, let alone those that I don't. But from what I can tell, the media was the one that broadcasted the way that chain was run, not the Kathy's. They just ran their business according to their beliefs, and donated their money to causes that they believed in, just like you or me. That's not controversial in my opinion, and nobody's business except theirs.
Should we talk about all the people and businesses that donate money to causes that go against Christianity? I don't think so.
Just one other thing. Is calling someone that you don't know a bigot ( I know you didn't do that yourself) any better than someone being against gay marriage?
I find that in general the people in this world that claim to be the most open minded are way too often the most closed minded.

Duke wrote: Nobody - and I mean *nobody* - has a problem with them staying closed on Sundays. Let me repeat that: nobody. Nobody sane, anyway.

I actually have more issue with all the places closing on Monday now. What kinda ass backwards thinking is that?

Didn't care for his food, don't care about the politics, but I can respect someone who stuck to his beliefs even if it cost him money.

Calling someone out for bigotry is NOT the same as being a bigot. And being pro-equality is NOT being anti-Christian. And I have stipulated that it's a private company and they can do whatever they want with it. And the Cathys are free to live what they feel is a proper life without any interference from me. I just get cranky when a "proper life" includes telling other people how it's acceptable to live.

SVreX wrote: When Truett Cathy makes a business decision to sacrifice 1 weekend day of business every week (which costs over $700 million every year I n lost revenues), he's a bigot.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/shane-l-windmeyer/dan-cathy-chick-fil-a_b_2564379.html

Here is a well written article by an LGBT advocate in support of Mr. Cathy.

Want to read something cool? They go out of their way to help,the little guy own/manage a single store. You invest $5,000. CFA owns the real estate. You cannot own multiple and you must run the store yourself. You share in profits because the business is your baby.

What does a Mcdonalds store cost to buy?

http://www.chick-fil-a.com/Company/Franchise-Opportunity/

bravenrace wrote:

Matt B wrote: In reply to bravenrace: Maybe you're seeing something different in this thread than I am. Considering the controversial way he operated in the last few years it's been pretty tame. Most of the posts have been about exactly what you're pointing out - the way he lived according to his principles. Are we only allowed to discuss certain principles that show him in a universally-liked way? My point is, he put his money, his company, and public persona behind a social/political issue that's been pretty divisive. That was his choice. His memory is forever tied to that issue. Again, for better or for worse.

It took me a long time, but eventually I learned to not judge people I knew, let alone those that I don't. But from what I can tell, the media was the one that broadcasted the way that chain was run, not the Kathy's. They just ran their business according to their beliefs, and donated their money to causes that they believed in, just like you or me. That's not controversial in my opinion, and nobody's business except theirs. Should we talk about all the people and businesses that donate money to causes that go against Christianity? I don't think so. Just one other thing. Is calling someone that you don't know a bigot ( I know you didn't do that yourself) any better than someone being against gay marriage? I find that in general the people in this world that claim to be the most open minded are way too often the most closed minded.

Well said, bravenrace.

Add into all other comments on the guy, that he was a car nut. Not a mitigating factor on his other personality traits, but its always better to find common ground than constantly grate on differences. He had over forty cars, but even so, I was surprised that they weren't all murrican iron. He had a Countach, a batmobile, and other unusual rides.

i'll say it.

i hate that they are closed on sundays. you have no idea how many times i've been on the road down south(before they made it up here) on a sunday craving those chicken nuggets and waffle fries, only to be cheated out of the deliciousness because his employees get sundays off.

travellering wrote: Add into all other comments on the guy, that he was a car nut. Not a mitigating factor on his other personality traits, but its always better to find common ground than constantly grate on differences. He had over forty cars, but even so, I was surprised that they weren't all murrican iron. He had a Countach, a batmobile, and other unusual rides.

Can't hate a guy with a batmobile. It's unamerican.

patgizz wrote: i'll say it. i hate that they are closed on sundays. you have no idea how many times i've been on the road down south(before they made it up here) on a sunday craving those chicken nuggets and waffle fries, only to be cheated out of the deliciousness because his employees get sundays off.

Troof.

SVreX wrote: If you choose to have your expectations colored before you have even seen the movie, then you are right, your expectations will be colored. Isn't that sort of the essence of bigotry?

Not really. If you didn't know me but you saw a clip of me on YouTube lighting my farts on fire, that might color your expectations of me but it wouldn't be bigoted

bravenrace wrote: The man died. Can't you guys let go of your ideologies just long enough to say something nice or not say anything at all?

Can we use this quote when someone discusses Hitler? He's dead, too, so we can only say nice things about him, right.

There, I godwinned it so that the thread can die.

If Chick-fil-a is mediocre at best I need to know what fast food counter service restaurants have better food/service so my eyes can be opened to a new level of food. I genuinely want to know since chick is at the top of my list (I like In and Out as much but don't find myself out west as much as down south).