No cheats here, but I am going to go look for E36 M3s and giggles. I doubt anyone here is cheating. What would be the point, to win a $5 WWF plastic belt? Meh, my morals cost more than that. I am a middle of the pack guy anyways. 
I am not too sure what tricks that I know(or whether or not I would be the guy to give them 
), but you could talk to Duke and see if he could follow you/you follow him, in a one-on-one session and see if he could help ya out.
I don't know of any cheat codes of any sort for Forza. I spent half of last year unemployed and a good month of this year being unemployed, so I have "seat time". It's just carrying speed and momentum.There are definitely guys faster than me on here: Racerfink, Leeroy Jenkins, Tazbuck, Anti Stance, but you have to just hang tight and pressure the person ahead to make a mistake. That, and look for different braking and turn in points. You will make 10ths up every session. I started off doing 1:04s at Iberian when I first started messing around with these cars. By Quali, I had a 1:02.3, which was the fastest I have ever gone and probably can never touch again. That's all the advice I have.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote: I don't know of any cheat codes of any sort for Forza. I spent half of last year unemployed and a good month of this year being unemployed, so I have "seat time". It's just carrying speed and momentum.There are definitely guys faster than me on here: Racerfink, Leeroy Jenkins, Tazbuck, Anti Stance, but you have to just hang tight and pressure the person ahead to make a mistake. That, and look for different braking and turn in points. You will make 10ths up every session. I started off doing 1:04s at Iberian when I first started messing around with these cars. By Quali, I had a 1:02.3, which was the fastest I have ever gone and probably can never touch again. That's all the advice I have.
Pfft.
Thanks for the response and good advice. I wasn't accusing anyone of cheating I was just surprised that I didn't find anything useful on google or even youtube. I didn't even click on the sites because I assumed that it's just someone trying to sell you something. Very good advise Duke, thanks. Yeah, I know over time I should improve. Or a least IHOPE I do.
Anti-stance wrote:DukeOfUndersteer wrote: I don't know of any cheat codes of any sort for Forza. I spent half of last year unemployed and a good month of this year being unemployed, so I have "seat time". It's just carrying speed and momentum.There are definitely guys faster than me on here: Racerfink, Leeroy Jenkins, Tazbuck, Anti Stance, but you have to just hang tight and pressure the person ahead to make a mistake. That, and look for different braking and turn in points. You will make 10ths up every session. I started off doing 1:04s at Iberian when I first started messing around with these cars. By Quali, I had a 1:02.3, which was the fastest I have ever gone and probably can never touch again. That's all the advice I have.Pfft.
In reply to Graefin10:
No worries. I know I'm already a half second slower than a couple guys at Sears Point already. I gotta find some spots to make up time. I know I can make up a tenth or two at the final hairpin by finding a later brake marker and turn in point.
Still don't know of a good date to start the next race...
In reply to DukeOfUndersteer:
I thought we were set up to run weekly. I just went to page 1 and saw all the TBDs.
Graefin10 wrote: I tried to set my controller up for manual/clutch but I guess I've got to find my original setup and change it from auto to manual. I doubt I'll be able to do it though because my fingers usually go to sleep after a few laps and it's hard enough to make them move to steer and use the throttle and brake. I want to try my best to be competitive though. I've got a long way to go, that's for sure. Forgive me if I mentioned this already but I googled different questions about how to get faster in Forza4 and the first page is all about cheats and cheat codes. WTH is that all about? Surely that's not what it takes to be "equal". I really don't know. I'm 63 and didn't start doing this until 14 years ago when I bought a video store. So I'm always learning something new. I try to apply what I've learned autoXing over the years to the game cars and for the most part find that it does cross over. My question is where can I go online to get usefull information on how to tune and tips on driving? I know you fast guys won't give up any of your hard earned knowledge but you might point us back markers to a useful site or two.
Grae, most of the "cheat codes" for a good console racing game seem to be "Use car X in race Y.." because they've got all the "ringers" figured out. There always seems to be a few cars in the batch that the programmers didn't get exactly right. One of the funniest things I discovered about GT3 was that the Chrysler PT Cruiser could dominate its class, with the right tune. When's the last time you saw one on a real racetrack? 
Ironically, a lot of the forum threads (the ones I've seen, anyway) about cheat codes consist of the fast guys trying to explain basic driving theory to kids who can't even legally drive yet. Proper application of the basics, and seat time is what it takes.
Tuning, on the other hand..a lot of videogame tuning is often counter-intuitive to what you know from real life. Most of the time, the basics are correct, but the details are off. Personally, I find that the adjustments I make in the game are much larger than I'd make in real life. I'll admit, I was never the best tuner in real life, either. I have to spend a lot more time test driving to get the car comfortable to drive. At least in Forza, it doesn't cost as much as real life..
It's really a crazy thing we're trying to do here..we're trying to turn a $50 videogame on a $200 console into the same kind of experience we'd have with a $1000 PC gaming rig and a $$ subscription to iRacing. IMO, it's kind of GRM, in a way..
Get more seat time, and be patient. I treat it like real racing..as long as I keep beating my personal best, and sometimes beat someone who is faster than I am, I'm pretty satisfied. Would I like to win? You betcha. Can I do it? I think I have a grand total of two wins over the various history of our various GRM series (spec MINI, spec Miata, Triple Awesome League, etc.). Was it fun & rewarding? Enough so that I haven't quit yet...
In reply to friedgreencorrado:
"Get more seat time, and be patient." Wisdom!
I was much more patient when I was younger than I am now. I think I've gotten it backwards.
Another one might be "consistancy"......something I seriously lack at times. I can run an epic lap at times...can I do it the same way each time? Hell no
I can run a hundred laps at Road America, go back an hour later and stuff it in turn one like I'd never seen the place before 
Ah well, I still have fun!
Running in hot lap always helps me by chasing my ghost I can see what lines are better than others, and improve that way. Just ran for about 45 mins for my first time at Sears Point and went from 1:32's down to a 1:29.3. Just chased the ghost and found where you could go without dirtying the lap...
Which brings me to a concern: You can run dirty laps easily a second faster than clean ones on the NASCAR layout. It isn't so much cutting corners but going wider to keep a faster line through a couple of turns. Is this going to be something that is frowned upon in competition or can we go ahead and say its legal since going wide opens up the entire inside for someone to make a pass? Just curious.
Ooh. I always have to run in "test drive". I hate the (multiple expletives used to properly describe my opinion of them) ghost cars in words that are not properly suited for a public forum.
That being said, I think most of us don't really care about hanging a wheel off somewhere. Clean or dirty only matters on the Forza Leaderboards, and at a PI not at the "top" of a Forza level, B-Spec really isn't going to make much of an impression over there.
AtticusTurbo27 wrote: Which brings me to a concern: You can run dirty laps easily a second faster than clean ones on the NASCAR layout. It isn't so much cutting corners but going wider to keep a faster line through a couple of turns. Is this going to be something that is frowned upon in competition or can we go ahead and say its legal since going wide opens up the entire inside for someone to make a pass? Just curious.
I just hope that everyone uses their best judgement when it comes to short-cutting or not short-cutting turns. I know you can make up a couple tenths using the "Nascar" line coming out of turn 5 and using all the curbing and more on the exit, but it gives you a dirty lap.
Also, if you want to see how other folks run the course, I believe there's a Rivals challenge up that is the Infineon NASCAR layout. The Rivals rules are different from B-spec, but should help learning the course. I also run my first couple practice sessions in Hot Lap with the magic green line on to learn the course more quickly.
In reply to Graefin10:
Oh, I thought of something coming from Gran Turismo to Forza that I had to do to help me out. You could switch the controller to where the "gas" and "brake" pedals are setup like the controls from GT. I had to do that for a while until I got good at using the Forza trigger controls.
DukeOfUndersteer wrote:AtticusTurbo27 wrote: Which brings me to a concern: You can run dirty laps easily a second faster than clean ones on the NASCAR layout. It isn't so much cutting corners but going wider to keep a faster line through a couple of turns. Is this going to be something that is frowned upon in competition or can we go ahead and say its legal since going wide opens up the entire inside for someone to make a pass? Just curious.I just hope that everyone uses their best judgement when it comes to short-cutting or not short-cutting turns. I know you can make up a couple tenths using the "Nascar" line coming out of turn 5 and using all the curbing and more on the exit, but it gives you a dirty lap.
Good point, if it were up to me, I'd say go with the wide line. We are doing the NASCAR layout, so why not do the NASCAR line? However, it will screw up qualifying. So we could do one of three things:
Allow NO NASCAR line for race or qualifying
Allow NASCAR line for the race but not qualifying "has to be a clean lap"
Allow NASCAR line in race and qualifying and a dirty lap is thrown away for the week.
I am good with whatever, but we need to know in plenty of time before the race
I like clean laps for equally but not enforced for the race. This feels more realistic to me. Rigid enforcement during qually but letting it slide in the race.
Anti-stance wrote: Allow NASCAR line for the race but not qualifying "has to be a clean lap"
This will be the ruling for Quali and the race
The adventures of a new Forza driver continue.
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Long story short, 1:37.8 @ Infinion. Man, did I have to work for that one. I finally saw how to set it up for manual/clutch and had a go with that. Have you ever seen a new born giraffe trying to run. Looks like I'm going to have to stay with auto until I feel more confident.
Anti-stance, I've been using the triggers for throttle and brake in GT since series 2. We're now on series 7. I used the L&R buttons to shift manually for two of the series but I began to have problems with my hands going to sleep I had to go back to auto. I figured out a way to be as fast with auto as I was with manual but it doesn't work in this universe. We always run two differen't classes in the series, i.e. we run one race then the next usually at the same track. So it's a total of 20 races per series. Also, I've been running in the Virtual Racing Org. series and am in the lead by a good margin in their GT550 10 race series. I won the GRM GT 650 championship and did well in the rally series with a second place. So I've had consideralble success with GT. Guys, IMO Forza is much harder to learn. So, I'll get in laps and be patient. Well as patient as I can manage anyway. What ever the outcome, I'm enjoying the new challenge and meeting some new GRM
In case you're not reading the Trans Am thread, after you buy a DLC car pack where do you find the new cars? I downloaded the May pack successfully but the cars aren't in the "my cars" section. How to I try them out? I want to get a Cortina built so I can practice with that group.
Another tip: When you hit a personal best, save the settings you did it with. I finally started cutting consistent 1:32s (best, 1:32.014)..and then changed something trying to get it quicker. Instant doom. Can't recall where I had it set previously, haven't tasted a 32 since. 
DukeOfUndersteer wrote:Anti-stance wrote: Allow NASCAR line for the race but not qualifying "has to be a clean lap"This will be the ruling for Quali and the race
This is what I was hoping. Sounds good. Will make it interesting.
If anyone wants to do some practice I'll be on, Just send me and invite no matter what im doing.
Starting to get the hang of the decals and such. This weeks' livery is "all original" and looking pretty sweet
Man, I'm going to be slow this week. So far my best is 1:30.106 dirty, but I'm only consistent around 1:31ish.
Running 1:31-1:32's...
Edit: ok more like 1:32-1:33 with the occasional high 1:31...
Ugh. Not mad at y'all, just mad at m'self.
And now, a little racing ditty, to the tune of "It Starts", composed & performed by Alex Metric.
I'm braking the same place, same place..always puts me off the road.
I'm apexing early, early..lap time in commode..
I track out, and I turn in.
Cross the line,
It starts again. (repeat until the bridge)
Let's go back out, I'm ready to start again.
Turn off the doubt, I'm ready to start again.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4izCumL5k2Q
And of course, please add additional verses.
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