Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
5/12/21 1:57 a.m.

They are wire guides for the steering cables for my Herter's.  They're bronze (I believe) and likely vintage.  No search terms I have tried have turned up the correct items.  Anyone find a link where I can buy a half dozen or so?

 

Javelin (Forum Supporter)
Javelin (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
5/12/21 1:58 a.m.

No idea on the correct term, but I bet Au-Ve-Co sells them.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
5/12/21 2:11 a.m.

In reply to Javelin (Forum Supporter) :

Never heard of them before, but oh man.  That's a huge rabbit hole to climb into.  I'll check more in the morning

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
5/12/21 5:19 a.m.
914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
5/12/21 5:35 a.m.

Mr. Asa is new to boats?  Clearly those eyes go to a canoe.  =~ )

stuart in mn
stuart in mn MegaDork
5/12/21 6:11 a.m.

It looks like a heavy duty version of a fishing rod guide.  You could probably make your own with a piece of wire.  If they aren't visible when installed in the boat, it probably doesn't make much difference what they look like.

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
5/12/21 8:09 a.m.

Is there strain on the eye?  Like the cable using that as a turning point.  With spring tensioners at each end of the cable it shouldn't flop around much.  The nearest thing I can find is a half circle loop on a piece of flat stock, functional but not correct for Pebble Beach.  I assume you looked in the Herter Company for parts availability or NOS.

Danny Shields (Forum Supporter)
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5/12/21 9:09 a.m.

Mr. Asa,

I suggest you take one to T.A. Mahoney's on Adamo Drive in Tampa. Walk up to the oldest person you see working there, and ask, "Do you carry THESE?" laugh

Marine parts

That boat looks like a great project, and you seem to be making a lot of progress!

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
5/12/21 11:40 a.m.

In reply to Danny Shields (Forum Supporter) :

I'm a huge fan of Mahoney's.  I'm sure they like me as well, I've cleared out their Zinc Chromate supply twice now.

Decent idea.

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
5/12/21 7:13 p.m.

Well, T.A. Mahoney's was a bust.  Guy didn't even know what it might be called and said I might have to fabricate it. 

914Driver said:

Mr. Asa is new to boats?  Clearly those eyes go to a canoe.  =~ )

Any more info on this?  I did some googling today and didn't find anything.

Purple Frog (Forum Supporter)
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5/12/21 7:27 p.m.

Google wooden boat restoration.

Maybe these guys:

http://www.woodiesrestorations.com/

914Driver
914Driver MegaDork
5/13/21 10:44 a.m.

Nothing more Mr. Asa, just being a wiseass because just above my post was one in Viet Namese (a canoe).

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
6/5/21 11:02 p.m.

Ordered some 1/16" 316L TiG welding rod.  What I got was undersized, is that normal?

Anyways.  I grabbed an old 5HP driveshaft.  Vice gripped one end onto the driveshaft and cranked down on it.  Didn't work that well.

 

 

So, scratched my head a bit, did some google, found a couple wire-forming videos and scratched my head some more.  Fired up Solidworks and made a little thingie.

  

 

4.5 hours and a couple yards of filament later.  Result is not 100% as tight as I want it to be, but I think it will work, have to finish the mounting eyes but that's nothing.  Maybe when I install it I can tension it so it closes the spring up?  Or I might just leave it be.

 

jfryjfry (FS)
jfryjfry (FS) Dork
6/6/21 10:18 a.m.

Wow, very cool.  Love the tool

Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
6/6/21 12:34 p.m.

In reply to jfryjfry (FS) :

I got to thinking and probably realized I could do a similar thing for the eyes.  Have a blind hole so it has a certain depth it can get to, then wind it around a post or screw or something and slide it off.

CJ (FS)
CJ (FS) GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/6/21 3:03 p.m.
Mr_Asa
Mr_Asa UberDork
6/6/21 3:36 p.m.

Those are pretty damned close to what I made.  Should have started with them, probably.  Oh well, now I have a new tool and method of making stuff

CJ (FS)
CJ (FS) GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/7/21 12:17 a.m.

Tool looks great!  I just got curious since I am absolutely positive I have seen the 'object' you asked about, somewhere, sometime.  It really seemed like it was something that I could find.

The last time I went on such a quest, it was for a spike with knobs on one end...

Didn't find it then, either.

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