Where are the super cheap post-emissions-scandal VWs?

Can I get a brand new GTI for ten grand yet?

Seriously, though, I have heard of some good deals, but not seen any in person (or in internet) yet.

Haha! Yeah, the way some people carry on about this, you'd think you could get the cars for free. I really don't think it's going to have much of an impact. VW will pay a few billion dollar slap-on-the-wrist fine, and business will resume as usual. Consumers have an extremely short memory. If things get really bad though, VW can always change their name.

tuna55 wrote: Can I get a brand new GTI for ten grand yet? Seriously, though, I have heard of some good deals, but not seen any in person (or in internet) yet.

Like new from the dealer's lot? They have been forced to not sell new cars.

As for the used ones- I bet that many owners are looking to profit from their cars.

I am holding out for TDIs to drop in price. Not likely it will happen but I can hope.

Tdi prices havent moved. Everyone thinks they have buyback gold.

Sad part is the consumers don't really care what VW did for the most part

Sine_Qua_Non wrote: Sad part is the consumers don't really care what VW did for the most part

Pretty much. My parents have a 2010 TDI Jetta. They are only thinking of selling it before the repairs start getting expensive.

tuna55 wrote: Can I get a brand new GTI for ten grand yet? Seriously, though, I have heard of some good deals, but not seen any in person (or in internet) yet.

I'd be surprised if we see any, or at least there will be very few sold by people that have the money to take a moral stand. Most people will either get the new emissions system because the car is already a sunk cost or they won't and the new system will go in when the car starts having issues and the owner is ready to sell. Americans are holding onto their cars for longer than pre-recession periods of time still.

I'm not quite sure who planted this idea in the medias head.

alfadriver wrote:

tuna55 wrote: Can I get a brand new GTI for ten grand yet? Seriously, though, I have heard of some good deals, but not seen any in person (or in internet) yet.

Like new from the dealer's lot? They have been forced to not sell new cars.

They can't sell gas cars either? I don't think that's what's happening.

HappyAndy wrote:

alfadriver wrote:

tuna55 wrote: Can I get a brand new GTI for ten grand yet? Seriously, though, I have heard of some good deals, but not seen any in person (or in internet) yet.

Like new from the dealer's lot? They have been forced to not sell new cars.

They can't sell gas cars either? I don't think that's what's happening.

I am pretty sure that VW is still selling gasoline powered cars.

In reply to HappyAndy:

I thought he was looking for a diesel.

In reply to alfadriver:

Tuna said GTI, so I figured that he meant gasoline.

In reply to HappyAndy:

He did, but I guess I don't understand why anyone would expect the gas engine cars to take a dump. So I thought he meant diesel.

alfadriver wrote: In reply to HappyAndy: He did, but I guess I don't understand why anyone would expect the gas engine cars to take a dump. So I thought he meant diesel.

To keep customers:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/28/us-volkswagen-emissions-dealers-idUSKCN0SM2SG20151028

alfadriver wrote: In reply to HappyAndy: He did, but I guess I don't understand why anyone would expect the gas engine cars to take a dump. So I thought he meant diesel.

I would expect new gasoline VWs to take a dump because VW, and more importantly, their dealers, are hurting for revenue. They've essentially lost 20% of their total sales volume.

I was thinking huge discounts on gas cars would help move some metal and keep the cash flowing, but it appears I was wrong about that.

I just saw an article stating a bunch of the new 2015-2016 gasoline powered cars are being recalled because the cam lobes shear off...

http://jalopnik.com/volkswagen-recalling-92-000-cars-for-shearing-camshafts-1740571907

So, diesel cars illegal to sell, gasoline cars potentially dangerous to drive. It seems like there will be some sort of impact from all this bad news pretty soon...

Ahh, here they are

https://www.truecar.com/prices-new/volkswagen/passat-pricing/2015/9080E3EA/?trimOptionIds=25-C,7-C,0-C&exteriorColorId=1038220&interiorColorId=1048130&incentiveIds=5120944,5100985,5113001,4000147228&trimId=268922&zipcode=30127

http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/2015/12/americas-last-15000-sedan-worth/

I'm waiting for the fix to cripple them... then the owners get pissed and sell them. Then I pick it up, slightly improve it and make it driveable.

81cpcamaro wrote: I am holding out for TDIs to drop in price. Not likely it will happen but I can hope.

Paul_VR6 wrote: Tdi prices havent moved. Everyone thinks they have buyback gold.

Only partially true.

If you're trying to buy one yes... hard to find a deal.

If you currently own an affected used TDI and are trying to buy a new car and normally trade in yours??? you're getting hosed. Wholesale pricing and trade-in offers on used TDI's are waaaaaaaay down.

They're just not turning around and reselling them waaaaaaaay down.

There are some gas models that can't be sold too. I think they were primarily Tiguans and Jettas. GTIs are unaffected.

Just looked at dealer in Houston that is offering $1500 additional on trade in for TDIs and selling gas 16 Jetta 1.4 S models for $14K.

xflowgolf wrote:

81cpcamaro wrote: I am holding out for TDIs to drop in price. Not likely it will happen but I can hope.

Paul_VR6 wrote: Tdi prices havent moved. Everyone thinks they have buyback gold.

Only partially true. If you're trying to buy one yes... hard to find a deal. If you currently own an affected used TDI and are trying to buy a new car and normally trade in yours??? you're getting hosed. Wholesale pricing and trade-in offers on used TDI's are waaaaaaaay down. They're just not turning around and reselling them waaaaaaaay down.

I tried to buy a BMW and trade in my Jetta...they refused to even consider taking the car in on trade. I am stuck with it for a while..

Devilsolsi wrote:

xflowgolf wrote:

81cpcamaro wrote: I am holding out for TDIs to drop in price. Not likely it will happen but I can hope.

Paul_VR6 wrote: Tdi prices havent moved. Everyone thinks they have buyback gold.

Only partially true. If you're trying to buy one yes... hard to find a deal. If you currently own an affected used TDI and are trying to buy a new car and normally trade in yours??? you're getting hosed. Wholesale pricing and trade-in offers on used TDI's are waaaaaaaay down. They're just not turning around and reselling them waaaaaaaay down.

I tried to buy a BMW and trade in my Jetta...they refused to even consider taking the car in on trade. I am stuck with it for a while..

The new automotive Kryptonite...

The VW dealer I work for also won't take in TDi's. No point in taking in inventory we can't sell.

My friend is a VW sales man. The 1used TDI on the lot is a DSG Jetta for $14k. Before it would have been about $20k.