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Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
3/15/14 4:20 p.m.

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-03-15/missing-malaysian-flight-mystery-deepens-pilot-investigated-foul-play-suspected

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/14 4:43 p.m.

In reply to ncjay:

Apparently they have something like that, which is how they knew the engines were running, but they Malasians didn't pay for the tracking subscription.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance UberDork
3/15/14 4:44 p.m.
Datsun1500 wrote: In reply to ncjay: How would the passengers know anything was wrong if no one said anything? If you're on a 8 hour flight, you don't start wondering what's up until it's close to landing time and you're not landing. You have no idea the plane made a left and you're on the wrong path as a passenger.

Only thing about it is if those reports from people saying they saw a plane flying low, you would think people on board would notice. As far as not getting a message out, maybe they had a cell phone signal scrambler? I am not sure that would make it through our TSA screeners but what about Malaysian airport security? I don't really know anything about either, just throwing stuff out there.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/14 5:33 p.m.

Has anyone questioned David Copperfield?

Anti-stance
Anti-stance UberDork
3/15/14 5:37 p.m.

I like the Criss Angel Mindfreak version myself.

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UberDork
3/15/14 6:37 p.m.

Man some of the theories that are going around the net are just flat out nuts. Tons of people are saying it was hijacked and landed at a predetermined destination and quickly hidden/camouflaged (man that would be tough). They are then saying that the plane is going to be refitted to either deliver a nuclear payload or EMP. Loads of holes in this theory including how the whole thing would be possible for it to re enter air space of any civilized country and not be identified or shot down for not being identified. Great ideas for a movie or book...may just want to hold off on writing it for a bit though (I am sure someone somewhere is thinking of this right now).

turboswede
turboswede GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/15/14 7:08 p.m.

Personally, I blame the North Koreans :)

kazoospec
kazoospec Dork
3/15/14 8:28 p.m.
rebelgtp wrote: Man some of the theories that are going around the net are just flat out nuts. Tons of people are saying it was hijacked and landed at a predetermined destination and quickly hidden/camouflaged (man that would be tough). They are then saying that the plane is going to be refitted to either deliver a nuclear payload or EMP. Loads of holes in this theory including how the whole thing would be possible for it to re enter air space of any civilized country and not be identified or shot down for not being identified. Great ideas for a movie or book...may just want to hold off on writing it for a bit though (I am sure someone somewhere is thinking of this right now).

That would be MASSIVE overkill for a weapons delivery vehicle. Why steal a loaded, 300 passenger jet (which WILL be missed) when a stolen plane on a cargo or maintenance run (or even a private aircraft) wouldn't even make an intelligence briefing. Further, most nukes/EMP's these days could easily be loaded onto a Lear/Gulfstream, which is WAY easier to steal, hide and use to penetrate air defenses. There are only a few places in that entire part of the world were you can land/take off a jet that size, and almost nowhere where you can hide it from overhead surveillance. Just doesn't make sense to me as a weapons delivery vehicle.

On a semi-related note, some supposed expert on the news today was arguing for that possibility and actually said "Sure, you need 10,000 feet to take off a plane like this, but it can be landed at a smaller field, disassembled and moved elsewhere and reassembled for takeoff." Really?

ncjay
ncjay HalfDork
3/15/14 8:32 p.m.

I agree, plenty of places in North Korea to hide huge aircraft. Thing is, why would they need a stolen plane?

rebelgtp
rebelgtp UberDork
3/15/14 8:42 p.m.

In reply to kazoospec:

Oh trust me it does not make sense to me either but apparently it does to many people.

My personal feeling is the thing was shot down (for one reason or another) and whichever military that did it is not going to fess up for obvious reasons.

oldsaw
oldsaw PowerDork
3/15/14 8:50 p.m.

The theories in this thread are as entertaining as those offered on CNN's non-stop fear fest.

slow
slow New Reader
3/15/14 10:37 p.m.
Knurled wrote: NMNA http://vietnam.craigslist.org/for/4372477162.html

That's a 773 instead of 772. I guess it is a bait and switch.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/15/14 10:56 p.m.

Dismantling and reassembling the plane seems like a lot more work than making the passengers cut down more trees at the end of the runway.

Edit: unless the plan is to rebuild the plane in their high school cafeteria in which case they would pull off the greatest senior prank ever.

Anti-stance
Anti-stance UberDork
3/15/14 10:58 p.m.
Wally wrote: Dismantling and reassembling the plane seems like a lot more work than making the passengers cut down more trees at the end of the runway. Edit: unless the plan is to rebuild the plane in their high school cafeteria in which case they would pull off the greatest senior prank ever.

mndsm
mndsm MegaDork
3/15/14 11:48 p.m.

Has anyone asked the xenu fans?

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Dork
3/16/14 12:37 a.m.

Ok I got this E36 M3 figured out ( yes, alcohol was involved )

Step 01. Hijack airplane

Step 02. Fly said plane to short homemade air field in buttberkeleynowhere

Step 03. Have passengers cover plane with brush

Step 04. Refuel plane, load nuclear weapon

Step 05. Have passengers lengthen runway in order for plane to takeoff

Step 06. Fly plane under radar into an area with international flights over head, and with poor radar coverage (open ocean, maybe)

Step 07. When international flight is selected (in poor radar coverage area) a ship with an S.A.M shoots down the "clean" airplane

Step 08. The original or "dirty" air plane come up and takes the place of the "clean plane" with the proper tracking number

Step 09. This would allow the weaponized plane to fly into the target city without anyone the wiser until it was to late

Did I miss anything, I think that should work.

Paul B

Kenny_McCormic
Kenny_McCormic UberDork
3/16/14 1:26 a.m.

Where does one get an atomic bomb in the first place? The ones that are easy to make, you cant realistically get/make the fissile material (highly enriched uranium) for, the ones its even remotely feasible to collect materials for (implosion type plutonium weapons) require knowledge only a handful of people know, all with orders to commit suicide in the event of a capture attempt. If you want thermonuclear bombs, that opens up a whole nother can of difficulty worms.

EMP would only cause widespread damage if you detonated a big nuke in the ionosphere, if my memory serves me correctly, which presents two problems, the above paragraph, and this would require a spacecraft or bigass missile of some sort, not a passenger jet.

Wally
Wally GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/16/14 1:30 a.m.
Kenny_McCormic wrote: Where does one get an atomic bomb in the first place?

It turns out you can't. What they actually have is a box of old pin ball machine parts.

slow
slow New Reader
3/16/14 2:14 a.m.

It would be funny if that plane shows up at 2015 challenge with a LSX transplant.

kazoospec
kazoospec Dork
3/16/14 7:56 a.m.

In reply to Wally:

(Arnold voice) - "Or a snow-cone maker"

Dr. Hess
Dr. Hess MegaDork
3/16/14 9:03 a.m.

Looking like the pilot: http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/16/missing-mh370-daily-mail-pilot-political-fanatic/

Goes to trial where his imam is sent to 5 years in prison, gets in 777 and flies to....

stroker
stroker Dork
3/16/14 9:18 a.m.
slow wrote: It would be funny if that plane shows up at 2015 challenge with a LSX transplant.

I lol'd but FMV kills that.

Donebrokeit
Donebrokeit Dork
3/16/14 10:17 a.m.

This seems like the most likely answer at this time. If you want to kill yourself do not take anyone else with you, please.

Dr. Hess wrote: Looking like the pilot: http://www.thestar.com.my/News/Nation/2014/03/16/missing-mh370-daily-mail-pilot-political-fanatic/ Goes to trial where his imam is sent to 5 years in prison, gets in 777 and flies to....
JohnRW1621
JohnRW1621 UltimaDork
3/16/14 10:45 a.m.

The tallest twin tower building in the world is the Petronas Towers in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia.
A heck of a target if you are trying to play one-ups-manship.

Of course, it seems if that was the intention it would have been done already. I certainly hope this is not the plan for the "re-purposed use"

SVreX
SVreX MegaDork
3/16/14 12:28 p.m.
stroker wrote:
slow wrote: It would be funny if that plane shows up at 2015 challenge with a LSX transplant.
I lol'd but FMV kills that.

No it doesn't.

If there is an actual purchase for less than $2014, FMV would not apply.

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