Ever notice that when entering a full address, you enter New York, NY. But when mentioning the city, you always add the "city" at the end.
Q: What's your favorite large metropolitan area?
A: New York City
I get that you often have to separate the city from the state, but you never add city to Chicago, or Pittsburgh or Los Angeles. You say "the city of..." Why not New York?
(it is Friday and I am burned out)
To differentiate. There is a state and a city named New York. So you are making sure you are being clear which one you are referring to. There is not a state named Pittsburgh, or a state named Chicago or a state named Los Angeles, so you don't need to differentiate.
Maybe it's because Chicago is not in Chicago State.
Of course, Kansas City is in Missouri...
Keith Tanner wrote: Maybe it's because Chicago is not in Chicago State. Of course, Kansas City is in Missouri...
And it's in Kansas too. So same premise as New York.
If you walked up to me and started talking about New York, I would think state, unless you said New York City.
That doesn't happen when you say Chicago, or Baltimore. It does to an extent when discussing Washington, which is why it goes by DC most of the time.
Does anyone other than ignorant country folk ever say "New York City"? I was under the impression that anyone from New York would never, ever, add "City" to the name. On the other hand, I see the NYC abbreviation fairly often.
I'm confused too...
New York City
Kansas City
Any more?
In reply to pinchvalve:
Not as big, but here in MI: Traverse City
In that case, it is literally part of the name... So it appears as "Traverse City" on all maps. I don't believe that is the case with New York. The name doesn't actually include the word city in that case but some people add it.
Ybor City!
Indiana, Pennsylvania. Kinda the same, but not.
Wait, is the District of Columbia a City, or a State, or Both? Like Vatican City, it's a city AND a country. (I think)
Ybor City
And then there's Iowa City, Iowa; Oregon City, Oregon; Idaho City, Idaho; Montana City, Montana and who knows how many others.
They're like freaking Springfields...
pinchvalve wrote: Ybor City!
haha, nice. highfive
I'm presently living in Victoria City, on Vancouver Island. Vancouver City is not on Vancouver Island. Victoria Island is in the high arctic.
You guys have no idea how hard it is to convey this to touristing Europeans.
I just went to Google maps and I was right. The place names are literally "Traverse City", "Kansas City" and just "New York". So, I think the original question is based on a false premise. New York City does not exist.
The District of Columbia is not a state. We're trying to be, though. Pushing for the name New Columbia.
The city encompasses the entirety of the district, making it confusing.
I used to work with an organization called The Public Housing Authority Of The County Of Chester. It's in Chester County, which is a concept everybody in the region understands. But a county over, there's a city called Chester. Nobody calls it Chester City or the City of Chester. But apparently The Public Housing Authority Of The County Of Chester thought they needed to differentiate themselves by making their name needlessly confusing.
There is a Lake Havasu City, so you don't build a house in the lake.
What if millions of people moved out of NYC, NY and it officially became a town? Or a Village? You would definitely call it "the town of New York" or "the village of New York". Why is City different?
pinchvalve wrote: New York City Kansas City Any more?
There's Iowa City. It's fun because the official signs say "City of Iowa City."
Regarding Kansas City, there's a reason people on the Missouri side call it KCMO.
Kylini wrote:pinchvalve wrote: New York City Kansas City Any more?There's Iowa City. It's fun because the official signs say "City of Iowa City." Regarding Kansas City, there's a reason people on the Missouri side call it KCMO.
These things are important-- I found an Illinois City, Illinois, but it's unincorporated, so technically they can't call it "The City of Illinois City."
In Los Angeles county there is "City of Industry" or just called "Industry". I think just using Industry would be confusing.
Near my house is a street named "Carmel Mountain Road". On that road is a Mt Carmel High School. It changes the way it's pronounced too. Carmel Mtn is pronounced "car-mul", but Mt Carmel is pronounced "car-mel" Even better is that there is not even a Mt Carmel or Carmel Mountain nearby. It is at the base of Black Mountain though
pinchvalve wrote: New York City Kansas City Any more?
There's a Peachtree City - near Atlanta, so it's far enough into the mountains that it's not easy to grow actual peach trees there.
Sometimes I see New York City and wonder how big York, PA would've become if the Amish had industrialized.
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