93EXCivic wrote: Being someone of the younger generation, I will say there are plenty of smart people among us but the stupidest among us seem to make themselves heard the loudest.
This is not a new development 
93EXCivic wrote: Being someone of the younger generation, I will say there are plenty of smart people among us but the stupidest among us seem to make themselves heard the loudest.
This is not a new development
ReverendDexter wrote: She told *everyone*, at once. No having to go through the same process of awkward admittal with each person who thinks they deserve to know
And therein lies one of the issues; a great way to throw off any sense of guilt or remorse for her actions. Its a lot different casually posting something to facebook compared to looking someone in the eye (like your parents who should have raised you better in the first place) telling them you're knocked up. You are the problem too if you think this way in my opinion.
all I have to say is...
Feel smug and superior about it while you can. Fact is, this is the way people communicate these days. Voice-on-voice is considered archaic and excessively time-consuming. There are 17 other better things I could be doing in the time difference between relaying something to you via text and the time it's going to take you to think you've sufficiently explained it to me in a phone call.
"How uncouth... the young miscreant chose to use a telegram rather than writing a letter like a properly educated young adult."
ReverendDexter wrote: You know, I'm gonna take the opposite side on this. I find nothing wrong with communicating in whatever means people are comfortable. Personally, I find this idea that a phone call is somehow better than an email to be ridiculous. By posting it up on Facebook, she made it PUBLIC. She told *everyone*, at once. No having to go through the same process of awkward admittal with each person who thinks they deserve to know, no one getting pissed that Uncle X knew before Auntie Y. And then to watch the entire commentariat descend on that decision like a pack of harpies... seriously guys? Every single post before mine is decrying the youth of today as some bastard children that are screwing the pooch. Quoth Socrates: *The children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers.*
With regard to this topic this quote isn't ancient history. It's about a culture in it's present state. Where are they now?
ReverendDexter wrote: Voice-on-voice is considered archaic and excessively time-consuming.
So I get to hear 10-15 text messages coming in to my wife's phone rather than a two minute conversation where all can be straightened out?
I would say that it depends on the thing you are doing as what is appropriate to use to communicate. Trying to get a group together for an event facebook or text. Just kinda talking to friends text. Getting married, so and so is prego or so and so died call for the love of god.
spitfirebill wrote:ReverendDexter wrote: Voice-on-voice is considered archaic and excessively time-consuming.So I get to hear 10-15 text messages coming in to my wife's phone rather than a two minute conversation where all can be straightened out?
10-15 text messages that each take less than 3 seconds to process and can be done while doing other things in a noisy room. Versus a "two minute phone call" that actually takes 10 minutes (and has to be the SAME 10 minutes on both sides) and requires a quiet area with decent reception.
ReverendDexter wrote: There are 17 other better things I could be doing in the time difference between relaying something to you via text and the time it's going to take you to think you've sufficiently explained it to me in a phone call.
yeah, there's lots of not-pregnant 17YO chix out there. srsly, do you think she's doing any one of those seventeen better things with her time?
ReverendDexter wrote: 10-15 text messages that each take less than 3 seconds to process and can be done while doing other things in a noisy room. Versus a "two minute phone call" that actually takes 10 minutes (and has to be the SAME 10 minutes on both sides) and requires a quiet area with decent reception.
I apply the law of averages to things like this: lets say 50% of people are stupider than myself (haha, see what I did there)? That means that 50% of text messages that involve any sort of explaining will be entirely useless. Hence when we are in the field, we CALL, not text when we need clarification from a smarter person than ourselves.
I, for one, have sent news of a death in the family via Facebook. Not the way that I wanted to, but I wasn't going to be able to call overseas any time soon (cell won't allow calls overseas) that they would be awake. Made more sense to know that they knew, than to have them find out after the funeral. They appreciated it.
ReverendDexter wrote: By posting it up on Facebook, she made it PUBLIC. She told *everyone*, at once. No having to go through the same process of awkward admittal with each person who thinks they deserve to know, no one getting pissed that Uncle X knew before Auntie Y.
See the thing is she did not tell everyone at once at all. The vast majority of her family (parents, grandparents and most of her siblings) do not have face book at all. Heck most of them never even get online at all. As I mentioned we only found out through the phone call from the girlfriends other sister wondering if we knew.
And I'm sorry there are some things you tell family before you tell the rest of the planet. Frankly we have written this girl off as being anything productive for society at all if she keeps up with her current pattern. We don't even let her in the house anymore because things tend to disappear or get broken when she is around.
racerdave600 wrote: My 19yo neice also turned up pregnant last week, and she too posted it on facebook before she told everyone, except her mother. It seems she was trying to get pregnant because all her friends are, and it is evidently a fashion accessory these days. Of course she didn't tell her bf that, and he is pissed to say the least.
Kid shoulda wrapped his rascal !
ReverendDexter wrote:spitfirebill wrote:10-15 text messages that each take less than 3 seconds to process and can be done while doing other things in a noisy room. Versus a "two minute phone call" that actually takes 10 minutes (and has to be the SAME 10 minutes on both sides) and requires a quiet area with decent reception.ReverendDexter wrote: Voice-on-voice is considered archaic and excessively time-consuming.So I get to hear 10-15 text messages coming in to my wife's phone rather than a two minute conversation where all can be straightened out?
Well I am talking about when I am driving down the road. No problem here with having a conversation. And it takes more than 3 seconds to punch in a message. The constant beeping of the phone really gets on my nerves.
It's not just kids.... Watching a friend of mine go through serious money problems. No concept of value, just spends like a drunken sailor ! In his early 40's and hasn't got a pot to piss in or a window to throw it out of, but everybody files for bankruptcy these days, right ? I can understand a significant employment change, major medical bills, even drug / alcohol abuse, but WTF ?
FWIW: I have more people over the age of 50 telling me "YOU'VE GOT TO GET ON FACEBOOK, IT'S AWESOME!" than I do people under 50.
Sort of related: Visiting downtown Atlanta, and also the freakin' mall this weekend, I would love nothing more than to punch, right between the eyes, every person that I see 'walking' and texting.
It is very difficut to send a picture of the E36 M3 I just took to co-workers with a phone call. Just calling each one and describing it is doing it no justice.
Now if I could just attach a scent.
racerdave600 wrote: Some kids today really are messed up, but I think it is multiple factors weighting in. Lack of parenting, instant media, pathetic school systems, TV, lack of morals in everyday society, etc. Most kids today never learn how to appropriately deal with problems, nor do they have a balanced view of their self-importance.
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It's got electrolytes
seriously, the little brat shoulda had the backbone to tell her folks face to face. I use the term "brat" loosely, and in place of a more accurate adjective because Im on a public network. Theres so much wrong with the "tell em on the facey-space tweetybooks" mentality, theres not enough bandwidth on GRMs server to discuss it all.
long and short though, I dont think the gap between the good kids and the sh_theads is any wider than it was decades ago. Its just that the intertubes makes it more obvious. There will always be flatbrim brotatos dicking it up for the rest of us. It will be that way when my kids are 80, and the jerktard at the hydrogen station forgets to wind the flux capacitor in their Buick.
Today, my sandwich was so wrong from what I ordered, the only thing that was right was the lettuce. Literally every other ingredient was wrong. Guess how old the jackwagon who took and made my order was? Id be willing to guess only barely old enough to drive a car. And he took out his phone no less than 4 times while taking/making my order to text about god-only-knows what moronic BS, rather than CONCENTRATING ON DOING HIS JOB!!!!1!!1 Standing up for the merits of texting over genuine face time or an actual phone call really brings into question the cranial fortitude of the stander-upper. srsly
Yet I digress, Im sure there are plenty of great kids out there just as upset at the current generation of youths as we are. Its their world the idiots are messing up too. We just dont hear enough about them to give the credit where it is due.
What you wrote made my day, that is awesome!!
haha You should write a book!
I'm going to write that on my status
4cylndrfury wrote: seriously, the little brat shoulda had the backbone to tell her folks face to face. I use the term "brat" loosely, and in place of a more accurate adjective because Im on a public network. Theres so much wrong with the "tell em on the facey-space tweetybooks" mentality, theres not enough bandwidth on GRMs server to discuss it all.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bqDCfof4FQ
I can't stand texting. My wife works a job where a phone call is very inappropriate, hospital OR, but constantly texts. When does she text? When I can't reply back, then wonders why some of my answers are rather terse. But a two minute phone call eliminates 30+ mins of texting, especially when that answer is needed rather quickly.
As to the sammich jockey, I think I would have, ummmm, "raised a stink" after the FIRST text.
poopshovel wrote: FWIW: I have more people over the age of 50 telling me "YOU'VE GOT TO GET ON FACEBOOK, IT'S AWESOME!" than I do people under 50. Sort of related: Visiting downtown Atlanta, and also the freakin' mall this weekend, I would love nothing more than to punch, right between the eyes, every person that I see 'walking' and texting.
Ya, but seeing as you just quit smoking, and you are, you know, POOPSHOVEL, is there ever a time you don't want to punch someone?
Joey
Bookface and Myface
I think the young ones that are the select few that are out of the "generation" circle of today are all on this board I still consider myself a 90's baby so i'm proud of that. I have a few friends that have sense and was raised with a brain
When I was working alongside other people--work at home now--if you pulled out a cell phone to talk or text and it was NOT an emergency, the first occurance resulted in it being confiscated until the end of the shift. Second time, and you got a written warning; third time: here's you're phone while you were being escorted out the door without a job.
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