RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/23/25 7:57 a.m.

Before I start tearing things apart, just curious if anyone else has had this issue. 

 

Now Tuesday, I had frozen pipes. Washer didn't want to start. Eventually, after I got the pipes thawed, itstarted, filled up, stopped, then eventually it ran it's load.

We left it alone yesterday. 

Today, with no frozen pipes anywhere and a warmer ambient temp, but, no heater in the laundry room, the washer is refusing to turn on again. 

No noise, no nothing. 

Speed queen commercial awn432sp113tw04. About 8 years old. No issues of any sort until this week. 

I've left it unplugged to reset the circuit board, as all the "ask the expert" Google reviews are saying but it's not doing anything. 

I'll be moving a heater back in the room as a just in case, but has anyone run into this before or dealt with this problem before I call in a repair guy and spend more money I really don't berkeleying have this winter after problem after problem after berkeleying problem?

triumph7
triumph7 Dork
1/23/25 9:27 a.m.

Frozen or clogged water fill valve(s)?

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/23/25 9:27 a.m.

Heater on for 1.5 hours, washer works again. 

Still might have dude come out and look over everything, $75 insurance and all. 

Thermostatically controlled outlet coming in to leave a heater in there all the time I guess until we can redo it.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/23/25 9:29 a.m.

In reply to triumph7 :

No, and that's the annoying part. Even with running water through all the plumbing it wouldn't even respond to controls until I got the room heated up. 

Never had this problem at my old house, where the laundry room it lived in was consistently colder than the laundry room it lives in now. 

berkeleying tightwad previous owner that filled the walls with insulation of a lower R value than berkeleying bales of straw. (Yes I dug up the r values before)

triumph7
triumph7 Dork
1/23/25 10:57 a.m.

In reply to RevRico :

I was talking about the water valves inside the washer.  If they don't let water in then nothing happens.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/23/25 11:17 a.m.

In reply to triumph7 :

Oh. That's possible I guess, but when it's frozen up before, it at least made noise when you tried to do a load, like it was struggling to pull water through. No noise of any sort this time. 

I want to feel like there would be other frozen parts than just inside the washer, but I guess small amounts of water, small confined space, that could freeze before the pipes do. 

confuZion3
confuZion3 UltraDork
1/23/25 11:55 a.m.

In my laundry room, which also gets very cold due to exposure on two walls to the garage and a third wall to the exterior of the house, if I don't have some sort of supplemental heat in there on very cold days, the drain pipe will freeze, back up, and flood the laundry room and adjacent bathroom when the washing machine tries to drain itself. It's OK, though, because the flood water will quickly drain. Into the very same floor vents that are supposed to be heating those rooms from the furnace. indecision

mtn
mtn MegaDork
1/23/25 12:07 p.m.

I've found numerous circuit boards just aren't happy in freezing temperatures. 

 

In any case, I'd probably look at making a cubicle for the washer and dryer, and leaving a heat lamp/grow light on in there when it gets below 25 or so. $100 in some foam insulation and duct tape would probably be sufficient engineering for it. 

93gsxturbo
93gsxturbo UberDork
1/23/25 1:16 p.m.

Entirely possible you have a circuit board with a cracked solder joint that expands just enough to work when it warms up.  This sort of failure will generally get gradually worse and worse.

If you have the skillz and everything else tests kosher, pull the boards and reflow them.  

 

z31maniac
z31maniac MegaDork
1/23/25 2:03 p.m.

Ours is like confuZion3. Laundry/dog room is in between the kitchen and garage. But the washer and drain pipe sit on a north facing, exterior wall.

We learned a few years ago, if it's been below about 25 for a day or more, the drain freezes and pukes water all over the wall and floor. But when it happened we were in the living room and heard the loud splashing and were able to turn it off before too much water got on the floor. 

 

Another good reason we never run the washer/dryer/dishwasher if we aren't awake or at home.

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
1/23/25 2:10 p.m.

Well good news/annoying news. Appliance guy just left. Everything tests fine. 

Speedqueen uses a bizarre pressure/moisture level gauge to know how full of water the drum is. This gauge is connected with some clear vinyl tubing. There was a small bit of ice inside that tubing blocking the connector. 

Now, had I not spent the money, I know damn well I'd have a busted board in my most analog of washing machines. But since I spent the money, it's "keep the room warmer". 

Thermostatically controlled outlet is due in on Saturday to tie to the heater that now lives in there for the winter. Because $35 at Lowe's for a single is berkeleying stupid when the exact same one is on Amazon for $15/2 pack. 

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