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DoctorBlade
DoctorBlade Dork
3/28/12 4:01 p.m.
NGTD wrote: Did the car behind Dale actually make contact? If I recall correctly, Dale Sr. did not have a great handling car, and appeared to be trying to hold up part of the field so that Little E and Mikey Waltrip could run the checkered. When the car (Jeremy Mayfield ???) behind him got up on his back bumber, it took the air off Sr.'s rear spoiler and the car started to spin. The spin unfortunately hinged the car on the front bumper of Kenny Schraeder and the car went almost directly up the banking and into the wall. Its been a while and I might be wrong with my memory, but for me that was pretty well the end of watching NASCAR.

I'd have to dig out the video if it's online. I'm not that interested anymore to be fair.

Toyman01
Toyman01 GRM+ Memberand UberDork
3/28/12 4:11 p.m.

In reply to NGTD:

They touched, not much and not hard, but they touched.

Oh, and Sr. would win. You may not like his style, but the man could drive the wheels off of just about anything. Hell, he climbed out of an ambulance and finished the Indianapolis 500 in a car he had just rolled. One of the last of the old school NASCAR crowd.

Javelin
Javelin GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
3/28/12 4:46 p.m.
Wally wrote: He made the ultimate sacrifice that day knowing that it was the only way Mikey was going to win a race, something even his motor mouthed brother wasn't willing to do for him.

Hey now, let's be a little fair. Mikey did win the All Star race at Charlotte in the Woods Bros #21 before his first 500 victory.

hotrodlarry
hotrodlarry HalfDork
3/28/12 5:32 p.m.

What era of each driver?

Cyborg Petty from the late 60's/early 70's

Zombie Dale Sr from the 80's

that's a tough one.

Will
Will Dork
3/28/12 5:52 p.m.

One thing that's a bit unfair about comparing them on pure numbers is that Petty lived long enough to run much, much longer than he should have. Dale never got that chance.

I don't want to take away from Earnhardt's talent, but imagine him running from 2001-2008 without winning a race. That's essentially what Petty did, and it might make the numbers look more even.

Compare both in their prime and it's a very tough call.

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
3/28/12 8:18 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: In reply to NGTD: They touched, not much and not hard, but they touched. Oh, and Sr. would win. You may not like his style, but the man could drive the wheels off of just about anything. Hell, he climbed out of an ambulance and finished the Indianapolis 500 in a car he had just rolled. One of the last of the old school NASCAR crowd.

In an IROC race, I saw an F1 driver run Sr off the line into the grass right as the banking began. Sr stayed in it, kept it straight, drove through the grass and re-entered the racetrack near the end of the banking.

Can you imagine doing that and then seeing a really pissed off Sr in the rearview?

He only lost a few positions. He did tap the guy after the race was over, I think. He had amazing car control. Petty was good, but not like that.

NGTD
NGTD Dork
3/28/12 8:33 p.m.
Toyman01 wrote: In reply to NGTD: They touched, not much and not hard, but they touched. Oh, and Sr. would win. You may not like his style, but the man could drive the wheels off of just about anything. Hell, he climbed out of an ambulance and finished the Indianapolis 500 in a car he had just rolled. One of the last of the old school NASCAR crowd.

I will take your word for it, it was over 11 years ago.

I am not sure if I gave you the impression that I didn't like Dale Sr.'s driving style or not. Certainly not true. I think you may have meant this for others.

I miss the old school guys that could just tap a guy and motor by. They could do it and make it look subtle, unlike the guys these days who just run into each other and then throw their helmets.

The only modern guy I like watching is Tony Stewart. Smoke still has a little old school in him.

To the poster above me - I remember watching that IROC race - that was cool

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
3/28/12 8:50 p.m.
NGTD wrote: To the poster above me - I remember watching that IROC race - that was cool

I wish I could remember what race/year, I'd love to watch it again. My jaw hit the floor and stayed there for an hour. Amazing piece of driving. He must have been truly pissed.

HappyAndy
HappyAndy Dork
3/28/12 8:50 p.m.
Appleseed wrote: Happy? <img src="Cyborg Petty" />

Even better than I imagined!

Will
Will Dork
3/28/12 9:22 p.m.
tuna55 wrote: I wish I could remember what race/year, I'd love to watch it again. My jaw hit the floor and stayed there for an hour. Amazing piece of driving. He must have been truly pissed.

You're welcome.

BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon HalfDork
3/28/12 10:21 p.m.

Man I miss IROC. Those Trans Ams make great looking stock cars.

Obligatory link

griffin729
griffin729 HalfDork
3/28/12 10:25 p.m.

Dale was the better driver. Petty has great charisma, so I tend to like the King better. However cyborg augmentation to one of the legends of the sport versus zombification, which usually results in a decrease in coordination and reflexes, for the other legend we're talking about. I'm gonna have to go with Cyborg Petty on this one.

NGTD
NGTD Dork
3/28/12 10:50 p.m.
Will wrote:
tuna55 wrote: I wish I could remember what race/year, I'd love to watch it again. My jaw hit the floor and stayed there for an hour. Amazing piece of driving. He must have been truly pissed.
You're welcome.

Thank you!

BTW - This - I miss the old school guys that could just tap a guy and motor by. They could do it and make it look subtle, unlike the guys these days who just run into each other and then throw their helmets.

Check out the You Tube link and look at that little tap that Jarret gives Rudd on the run to the checkered - perfect example - Just seems to wiggle Rudd and cause him to loose a little ground and Jarret nips him at the line.

slantvaliant
slantvaliant Dork
3/29/12 8:41 a.m.

Depends. Which one has Undead Smokey as a crewchief?

tuna55
tuna55 UltraDork
3/29/12 11:36 a.m.
Will wrote:
tuna55 wrote: I wish I could remember what race/year, I'd love to watch it again. My jaw hit the floor and stayed there for an hour. Amazing piece of driving. He must have been truly pissed.
You're welcome.

Just like I remembered - I've never seen another driver pull that off - those banking transitions are tough, not to mention the grass. Thanks!

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