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dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/14/23 12:20 a.m.

TMP was horrible so limerock was selected.  I think it will be a fun track. 

Racebrick
Racebrick Reader
6/14/23 4:48 p.m.

The server was down when I tried to practice. Are we all good for tonight?

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/14/23 8:11 p.m.

We are good it was down due to power outage earlier today

 

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
6/15/23 1:09 p.m.

Final race results and final standings.  Congrats to Colin for a win.  Racebrick made a good late run to try and challenge.  Dean make consistent (mediocrity?) pay off.  Darwin JUST sneaks past Gameboy for 4th.  Drillin also makes a good late charge.

 

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
6/16/23 5:03 p.m.

So I played around some today with the TCL cars... I really think we should use a group of cars rather than a 'spec' model for the next series.  If we find that one car is a 'ringer', we can always do a BOP in addition to the usual handicaps.  I did note that they were a couple seconds a lap slower than the Miatas we were just running, but some of them are more fun to drive.

I like the TCL cars, but I also really like the GT Legends cars, though I guess you guys ran those in a series before I got involved.  They're fast and fun, but some are pretty challenging to drive, at least out of the box.

I'm open to whatever, but I do think we should go back to a series with a variety of cars rather than another 'spec' series.  

Thoughts?

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
6/16/23 5:27 p.m.

The TCL cars are awesome.  I don't think we need BOP/handicap.  They are produced by a team of people that spend countless hours balancing, I don't think we will do a better job without devoting > length of a series to doing it.  If one is better one track vs. another, no big deal, in a 10 race series that will equalize.  We may consider doing a subset of them though, vs the entire pack.  These 4 together are so amazing:  BMW2002, Datsun 510, Ford Ford Econobox, Mazda RX3

 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/19/23 9:39 a.m.

@ Pro:  I will see about setting up a server with them today.

 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/19/23 6:17 p.m.

TCL server is up with 10 different cars. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
6/19/23 6:40 p.m.

I just realized GRM has a censor for "Esc0rt" = Ford Econobox

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
6/19/23 7:11 p.m.

In reply to ProDarwin :

I was wondering about that... LOL.  Probably due to the Dubai spammer a couple months back!

BradLTL
BradLTL GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
6/19/23 7:29 p.m.

I should be back for the next series. When are we starting? 

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
6/19/23 7:34 p.m.

Test n' tune this week, starting the series next week... I think?

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
6/19/23 9:31 p.m.

Here are some inspirational photos from when we used these cars last:

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
6/19/23 9:59 p.m.

Any thoughts on doing test days a different day than race days?

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/20/23 8:17 a.m.

In reply to ProDarwin :

I try and keep the server up 24/7 so we can test any time.  
 

BTW. I set the tire ware higher than normal to see how they drop off. They should make a 15 minute race the way it is configured. But I did not try all the cars. The cars I did try there were differences in the ware rate as well as what tires wore more. 
 

I also set fuel usage higher. Not so we would need pit stops but more so I could see handling changes on cars as fuel burns off combined with the accelerated tire ware.  All this is just me testing unless people want to add that dynamic to things.  It is a fun dynamic to add but not all people will like it.  

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
6/20/23 8:32 a.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

I only got a couple of laps in before I got a phone call and had to bail yesterday, but I was wondering why my fuel gauge was dropping so fast...

 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/20/23 2:36 p.m.

I saw you while I was testing things.  I may go another track tonight with the same group of cars.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/20/23 11:55 p.m.

Testing tonight resulted in these results.

The A110 I think I could get into the 34's but you would really be driving it.  The RX3 I thought was going to be better and the 510 just seemed horrible but was actually a fast car.  The other surprise to me was the MGA.  It is such an easy car to drive.  I think that because it only has a 4-speed it is being held back.  It is such an easy car to drive!!!

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/20/23 11:57 p.m.

The server has been reset with tire and fuel back to "normal" ware/use.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/21/23 12:00 a.m.

The BMW has its quirks but get it right and it is really fast.  The 911 I think I need more time in it and it should be very fast.  Probably some diff work.

 

BTW the testing I did was on the base setups of the cars.  The only change I made was to gearing if a car was over or under geared I corrected that.  Everything else was unchanged.

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
6/21/23 8:30 a.m.

In reply to dean1484 :

The BMW is definitely quick, and also reasonably easy to drive.  The Ford RS1600 is also fast on a perfect lap, but harder to get right...  I think the Ford will be a lot harder to be fast in traffic.  I didn't like the Alfa at first, but it's pretty quick as well.

I was also disappointed with the 510... never meet your heroes?  LOL

I tried the Mercedes and Fairlane and they were awful... just couldn't get them to turn.  I probably gave up on them too soon, but they were a little frustrating.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
6/21/23 8:45 a.m.

I kind of want to test them myself on a different track.  A bunch of my issues come from ridiculously unstable braking into T1.  Its a huge +/- 1 second wildcard.  I need to figure out how to tame that, but in the meantime I may check parity on Road Atlanta or Autumn Ring.

aircooled
aircooled MegaDork
6/21/23 12:11 p.m.
Rodan said:

...I tried the Mercedes and Fairlane and they were awful... just couldn't get them to turn....

They do have their "advantages" in traffic!   Dean did pretty good with the Merc the last time we used these.  I think the turning is a lot of trail braking and careful power oversteer use.

 

Rodan
Rodan UltraDork
6/21/23 12:31 p.m.

In reply to aircooled :

We always called that the 'lugnut rule'... in a 'coming together', he who has the most lugnuts wins.  At sea, they call it the law of gross tonnage.

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/21/23 1:45 p.m.
Rodan said:

In reply to aircooled :

We always called that the 'lugnut rule'... in a 'coming together', he who has the most lugnuts wins.  At sea, they call it the law of gross tonnage.

Ohhh I am definitely remembering that for future use.  

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