$2000 Challenge Rules

bluej said:

Tom Suddard said:

In reply to bobzilla :

Sorry, needs to be an actual binder. Those suck to lay on a desk and flip through. 

Is a lay-flat, spiral bound book ok? I already put a fair amount of effort into laying out a cohesive published package.

Stick the spiral bound inside a 3-ring binder. Done. 

In reply to SVreX :

Good point. In that case it's welcome to run, but would need to do so as exhibition only. Sorry, but it would be like bringing a knife to a spork fight. 

Thanks SVreX for helping me to clarify....yes this means its more than $8.  We will just have to use an older less awesome ECU we just repaired for another car to get back in line.

I see on the sticker diagram that there's a round number for the rear window. I don't think my decal pack came with that one.

Oops! Sorry about that. See Nancy at Registration and we'll get that sorted out. 

"Any four-wheeled production based vehicle..."

Does this mean the car originally had to be four-wheeled, or does it need to have exactly four wheels at competition? Can it have more than four wheels?

In reply to maschinenbau :

Also golf carts and RTV's are 4 wheel production based passenger vehicles. LS swaped golf cart 

Hoping you are thinking of the old Formula 1 car with 4 small front tires. 

Shifter kart with an even smaller Subaru van body on it.

maschinenbau said:

"Any four-wheeled production based vehicle..."

Does this mean the car originally had to be four-wheeled, or does it need to have exactly four wheels at competition? Can it have more than four wheels?

This was a somewhat pretty serious question

In reply to maschinenbau :

I've always taken that as originally having four wheels otherwise you could just show up with a motorcycle and two training wheels. Production is questionable. For example my Bradley GT body is a kit car but they did offer turn key from the factory. To me that's production but stepping right up to the line. 

In reply to Stampie :

A Bradley GT is a production VW that has been re-bodied. 

I always assumed the “4-wheeled” thing was an attempt to prevent anyone from showing up with a Reliant Robin or a Cushman.

But it is poorly written (which we should be happy about- it gives lots of opportunities!)

The rules do not seem to be on the GRM Challenge site right now.  

In reply to SVreX :

I think the real question is if someone shows up with a (non-plywood) 6-wheeled Elf replica, would it be legal?

Pete Gossett said:

In reply to SVreX :

I think the real question is if someone shows up with a (non-plywood) 6-wheeled Elf replica, would it be legal?

Honestly, this is what i thought he was thinking about 

In reply to Dusterbd13-michael :

I agree he was probably thinking something like that, but the rule still applies to things like Reliants, golf carts, and shifter karts.

In reply to SVreX :

But what if my Bradley GT isn't on a VW pan?

In reply to Stampie :

It’s on some kind of pan. 

SVreX said:

In reply to Stampie :

It’s on some kind of pan. 

Or production car rails

Right now it's on an old school wood frame. 

In reply to Indy-Guy :

Right.  Then THOSE are from a production car. The Bradley is not a production car.
 

A Bradley body sitting on custom frame rails would not be Challenge legal.

What about a Bradley body with production car hood and fenders taped over top of it, sitting on custom frame rails with a production car VIN plate stuck to them? 

In reply to slowbird :

Don't think so. (But the rules are not online right now, so I can't check)

In reply to SVreX :

Going from memory on the 2019 rules I say my Bradley GT on a custom tub frame is totally legal. Prove me wrong. And how is a turn key car from the factory not a production car?

I did not know Bradley produced turn key cars. Did they have Bradley vins?