http://peoria.craigslist.org/cto/2280719657.html
Great Hobby Car! $10,000 worth of repairs and updates have gone into this car so far. Currently needs a new fuel line and does not start. We are moving and need to sell this car fast! Respond by 3.28.10 with offer and number and we will call you back.
I hate you.
Factory turbo didn't show up until 1986.
Yeah - it doesn't look right for a 951, but looks nice enough to recoup a grand easy enough.
It definitely doesn't have the turbo front bumper. The fuel rail cracks on these, and I think I have access to a good one. Even if it's N/A, it looks pretty sweet for a car that needs a 20 minute repair.
Front bumper says 86 951. Phone dial offset says 87+ 951. Ad says 85 944.
Seller said: Currently needs a new fuel line and does not start.
Once you drag it home, install the fuel line you find it doesn't have pistons, rods, etc. Bwahahahahahaha.
Yep. That's not a turbo. Regular old '85 944.
Lugnut wrote: Yep. That's not a turbo. Regular old '85 944.
Unpossible. The FWD-offset phone dials means 87+ suspension/brakes.
Javelin wrote:Lugnut wrote: Yep. That's not a turbo. Regular old '85 944.Unpossible. The FWD-offset phone dials means 87+ suspension/brakes.
Wrong, they also made an early-offset phone dial.
16vCorey wrote:Javelin wrote:Wrong, they also made an early-offset phone dial.Lugnut wrote: Yep. That's not a turbo. Regular old '85 944.Unpossible. The FWD-offset phone dials means 87+ suspension/brakes.
I know. I own an early offset phone dial car (see signature). Those are definitely late-offset. So either he has spacers, a suspension swap, or it's already an 87+ and he can't count.
They also look like 15's though, so it's probably not a 951 anyways. You would hope someone with a Boxster/Cayman in the same garage would be able to tell.
Gotcha. I thought you were saying that since it had phone dials it had to be an '87-up. The wheels on it actually look like 924S phone dials, which had look like the late offset, but had the early offset suspension. Weird.
I never understood Porsche's fascination with sticking to one wheel design. On phone dials alone there are innumerable combos:
And that's just for one wheel design over the period of what, 5 years?
So yeah, who the heck knows what this car is.
ruskie scam? My spidey sense is telling me yes!
Javelin wrote: I never understood Porsche's fascination with sticking to one wheel design. On phone dials alone there are innumerable combos: * 85.5-86 944 early-offset, 15" * 86 951 early-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-89 944 late-offset, 15" * 87-89 951 late-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-88 924S bizarre offset, 15" * ??-?? 928 wtf knows what offset, 15"?? And that's just for one wheel design over the period of what, 5 years? So yeah, who the heck knows what this car is.
And the weird part is according to my interchange at work, the 15"x7" late offset phone dial fits 924 '86-88, 928 '78-83, and 944 '87-89. Which doesn't make any sense since the 924S uses the early offset. The 15"x6" phone dial is '86-'88 924S only.
16vCorey wrote:Javelin wrote: I never understood Porsche's fascination with sticking to one wheel design. On phone dials alone there are innumerable combos: * 85.5-86 944 early-offset, 15" * 86 951 early-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-89 944 late-offset, 15" * 87-89 951 late-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-88 924S bizarre offset, 15" * ??-?? 928 wtf knows what offset, 15"?? And that's just for one wheel design over the period of what, 5 years? So yeah, who the heck knows what this car is.And the weird part is according to my interchange at work, the 15"x7" late offset phone dial fits 924 '86-88, 928 '78-83, and 944 '87-89. Which doesn't make any sense since the 924S uses the early offset. The 15"x6" phone dial is '86-'88 924S only.
What does your interchange say on phone dials for 911s? My 85 targa has them (I've had people argue they never came on 911s even though the graphic on the owner's manual has phone dials)?
There's Phone Dials on 911's too!!?!?!?!!
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
complete with different offsets front and rear - still debating selling or parting this one.
oldtin wrote:16vCorey wrote:What does your interchange say on phone dials for 911s? My 85 targa has them (I've had people argue they never came on 911s even though the graphic on the owner's manual has phone dials)?Javelin wrote: I never understood Porsche's fascination with sticking to one wheel design. On phone dials alone there are innumerable combos: * 85.5-86 944 early-offset, 15" * 86 951 early-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-89 944 late-offset, 15" * 87-89 951 late-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-88 924S bizarre offset, 15" * ??-?? 928 wtf knows what offset, 15"?? And that's just for one wheel design over the period of what, 5 years? So yeah, who the heck knows what this car is.And the weird part is according to my interchange at work, the 15"x7" late offset phone dial fits 924 '86-88, 928 '78-83, and 944 '87-89. Which doesn't make any sense since the 924S uses the early offset. The 15"x6" phone dial is '86-'88 924S only.
My interchange shows that an '85 911 was available with 4 different phone dials. 16"x7" and 16"x8", both available in raw aluminum finish or clear coat finish. I'd assume the 16"x7" are for the front and the 8"s are for the rear.
From looking at the photo, those ARE late offset phone dials. You can put the late offset on an early car with spacers and that was common in the day...So the wheels don not tell you anything.
All 924S cars had the late offset wheel (52mm) on the early suspension front and had the late version of the suspension on the rear with late offset wheels. Same size front/rear.
You can install 928 wheels on a 924S, yes they had phone dials too....
the nose is NOT a turbo nose...That could be a normal 944 or a 944s (16v) or it might have a Calloway Turbo setup on it that was also popular in the day.
Somebody needs to look under the hood.
FYI: The starting problem on many of the 924/944 cars is the fuel pump relay in the panel failing or having poor connections. I always carry a spair just incase.
Didn't the 86 951 have the normal 944 nose?
In reply to Javelin:
All Factory 944 turbos had the one piece nose.
Later 944s cars with the 3.0L also had the turbo nose.
sent the owner a note with a couple questions - but looks clean enough to get a grand back out of it easy enough.
So did I. I got an email back this morning that it was already sold.
16vCorey wrote:Javelin wrote: I never understood Porsche's fascination with sticking to one wheel design. On phone dials alone there are innumerable combos: * 85.5-86 944 early-offset, 15" * 86 951 early-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-89 944 late-offset, 15" * 87-89 951 late-offset, 16x7 and 16x8 * 87-88 924S bizarre offset, 15" * ??-?? 928 wtf knows what offset, 15"?? And that's just for one wheel design over the period of what, 5 years? So yeah, who the heck knows what this car is.And the weird part is according to my interchange at work, the 15"x7" late offset phone dial fits 924 '86-88, 928 '78-83, and 944 '87-89. Which doesn't make any sense since the 924S uses the early offset. The 15"x6" phone dial is '86-'88 924S only.
924S were late-offset at least at some point. I used to run 924S phone dials (15x6) with r-compounds on my late-offset 944S. (Yes, I know... but I got them for dirt cheap with the tyres already mounted.) They were definitely not early-offset wheels.
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