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maj75 (Forum Supporter)
maj75 (Forum Supporter) HalfDork
11/30/20 10:24 a.m.

^^^^^^^

That's why nobody ever gets divorced...

 

You know, the one your buddies tried to talk you out of, but you were "in love."

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
11/30/20 10:27 a.m.

In reply to maj75 (Forum Supporter) :

I will agree that he shouldn't produce any mini vans that he needs to take care of for the next 18 years, but other than that, rock on. 

ProDarwin
ProDarwin MegaDork
11/30/20 10:34 a.m.

What kinda budget are we talking here?  Building out a Sprinter is like $10k on the low end if you DIY it.  And that's like 1/4-1/3 the interior volume of these buses.

Also remember that being a full on nomad in a vehicle that size would be insanely difficult because you cant fit it/park it anywhere.  

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
11/30/20 10:49 a.m.

In reply to thedoc :

I ve a friend who lives in the desert in a pick up camper.  He stays in a given area until someone runs him off.   He does his business on a folding chair with a toilet seat replacing the bottom. Next to it is a shovel that he tosses dirt over it as soon as he's finished.  He has a whole bunch of water jugs he runs and gets water when needed. 
 Wandering around he picks up sun bleached wood and paints sea scapes on it.  That's his income. 2 times a year he go to the California coast and sells it to souvenir shops. 
  My point is anything will work if you want it to.  But you accept the good with the bad.  No moveable home will appreciate,  only land does that. 

John Welsh (Moderate Supporter)
John Welsh (Moderate Supporter) Mod Squad
11/30/20 11:33 a.m.

The single rear axle, like this:

Is much more desirable than the dual rear axle like this: 

The single will be more maneuverable as well as fewer really expensive tires.  Take the word maneuverable with a grain of salt.  There ain't nothing maneuverable about these hulks.  

 

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
11/30/20 11:49 a.m.

This is a link to a place in Metro Toledo, Ohio that is about 45 minutes from me.  They specialize in used busses.  I just want to add this site as a way for you to see a lot of configurations in one place.  None of what they carry is converted to RV (specifically) but still a lot to see.  

https://www.tescobus.com/used-buses-for-sale/

 

I might recommend something like this.  Not based on a van but based on a real medium duty chassis.  A vehicle of real substance without being a vehicle of too much substance.  https://www.tescobus.com/buses-for-sale/2005-Mid-Bus-Chevrolet-42-Passengers-and-0-Wheelchairs_U10121/

 

 

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
11/30/20 11:58 a.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

Thanks John, now I just spent my lunch break looking at buses.

John Welsh
John Welsh Mod Squad
11/30/20 12:02 p.m.
Stampie (FS) said:

In reply to John Welsh :

Thanks John, now I just spent my lunch break looking at buses.

And not just busses... Mobile Dental Clinic

mazdeuce - Seth
mazdeuce - Seth Mod Squad
11/30/20 12:05 p.m.

We need fewer grown ups in this thread and more dreamers. 

Daylan C (Forum Supporter)
Daylan C (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
11/30/20 12:06 p.m.

Guys. I love you all. But if I can't look cool doing this, it's just being difficult for the sake of being difficult. 

chandler
chandler UltimaDork
11/30/20 12:17 p.m.

Does Steve still use mongo? That would be the easy button here.

11GTCS
11GTCS HalfDork
11/30/20 12:47 p.m.

In reply to mazdeuce - Seth :

X 2 for enabling, way more practical talk here than I expected.   We're supposed to wait until he buys something to point out the down sides.     

Edited to add a link to John in Kansas' build thread: Why I won't be ready for the $2020 Challenge| Builds and Project Cars forum | (grassrootsmotorsports.com) 

LarryNH (Forum Supporter)
LarryNH (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/30/20 7:55 p.m.

In reply to John Welsh :

How about converting a prison bus?

thedoc
thedoc GRM+ Memberand Reader
11/30/20 8:09 p.m.

In reply to LarryNH (Forum Supporter) :

Wouldn't a prison bus be more work, taking out the partitions?  I am intrigued by the how to do this.  Do you start with bus that is a blank slate, or buy a trashy motor coach and remodel to your specs?  How large or small do you go with this?  I have seen some school bus conversions that were gorgeous.  I have seen some short bus conversions that were down and dirty,but totally functional.  It's times like these I am glad I don't have the space for a project like this.

gumby (Forum Supporter)
gumby (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand Dork
11/30/20 8:23 p.m.

egoman
egoman Reader
11/30/20 9:44 p.m.

My advice to you would be to do the toter-home thing with a semi. I have done and still own a bus conversion. It is an awkward driveline to work on and if the bus ages the living area loses value also. Another truck under your cube and its modern again. 

Just trust me bus services if you can find anyone to work on them are expensive. The parts are not always the standard heavy duty truck stuff either.

The bus idea was always my dream. I got to live it and loved it. I just would do it differently now.

wearymicrobe
wearymicrobe PowerDork
11/30/20 10:01 p.m.

I hate to bring reality into this but something you can haul with a truck may be better option. you can setup show and then have a vehicle to go out and do work with. Opens up a ton of options as well. I could pretty comfortably live in a 27-30 foot airstream or something like it if the weather was nice and I could put a motorcycle on the back and hve a decent truck to do work with when I got where I was going. 

 

But I am the last person who would live like this so take everything with a grain of salt. 

AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter)
AWSX1686 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand UltraDork
11/30/20 10:12 p.m.

Following along with this craziness/awesomness! 

R56fanatic (Forum Supporter)
R56fanatic (Forum Supporter) New Reader
11/30/20 11:31 p.m.

All these posts and I'm surprised no one has mentioned this:  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Furthur_(bus)

I always thought it would be cool to turn a 40' shipping container into a house, then just have it shipped from place to place.  Last year I stayed in a hotel in Valparaiso, Chile that was built out of old shipping containers, it was very cool and worked very well.

03Panther
03Panther Dork
12/1/20 12:43 a.m.
gumby (Forum Supporter) said:

Well said, sir!

03Panther
03Panther Dork
12/1/20 12:52 a.m.

Having traveled in vans (class 1, and 2) medium duty trucks (class 5 and 6) and semi’s (class 8) (professionaly, rv toters  and full blown motor home )and driven a privately owned bus converted to a flatbed hauler (366 gas), I found the medium duty trucks are more expensive, for less hauling ability than going on up to a class 8 semi. 

Cool factor is there as well. A semi converted to single rear wheel, flatbed for car and or motorcycle, and tow a easy to find camper. 

Doesn't have the same “hippy” vibe a a converted bus, though. 

RevRico
RevRico GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
12/1/20 2:07 a.m.

Why haven't you bought some $500 hulk of a bus and started cutting and welding yet?

preach
preach GRM+ Memberand Reader
12/1/20 3:40 a.m.
RevRico said:

Why haven't you bought some $500 hulk of a bus and started cutting and welding yet?

This.

Daylan C (Forum Supporter)
Daylan C (Forum Supporter) PowerDork
12/1/20 4:32 a.m.
RevRico said:

Why haven't you bought some $500 hulk of a bus and started cutting and welding yet?

Trying a new strategy this time.

frenchyd
frenchyd PowerDork
12/1/20 9:09 a.m.
03Panther said:

Having traveled in vans (class 1, and 2) medium duty trucks (class 5 and 6) and semi’s (class 8) (professionaly, rv toters  and full blown motor home )and driven a privately owned bus converted to a flatbed hauler (366 gas), I found the medium duty trucks are more expensive, for less hauling ability than going on up to a class 8 semi. 

Cool factor is there as well. A semi converted to single rear wheel, flatbed for car and or motorcycle, and tow a easy to find camper. 

Doesn't have the same “hippy” vibe a a converted bus, though. 

My opinion; A 379 Peterbuilt with either a 3406 Cat  or Cummins big cam Has  a cool factor of it's own.   Not exactly Hippie but more of a classical good looks. 
No it won't get the same fuel mileage/per ton that more Modern trucks will. But those engines  are capable of up to million miles, and the rest of the chassis is capable of even more.    

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