Located in 'Bay Area' CA. Looks like it's a good clean car to swap engines or repair. Oil in coolant - for a 2000 model I'd expect a cracked head as the cause.
Located in 'Bay Area' CA. Looks like it's a good clean car to swap engines or repair. Oil in coolant - for a 2000 model I'd expect a cracked head as the cause.
Thank god it's all the way over there. Otherwise I'd be interested in another one...
In reply to dan0 :
I thought ... you know it's only a few days out there with a trailer.
In reply to dan0 :
An epic coast to coast fly n drive? 'Sponsored by BlueDevil (or whoever) Head Gasket Sealer'.
In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
Do you think that could work because I know a guy that was thinking that this morning.
Stampie said:In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
Do you think that could work because I know a guy that was thinking that this morning. Asking for a friend...
Edited your comment, figured I owe you a favor.
In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
I personally like the Liqui Moly variety
Stampie said:In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
Do you think that could work because I know a guy that was thinking that this morning.
I don't think it would be a permanent fix for the engine, but may help it get down the road for a while. Oil into the coolant - can it be 'fixed' by putting magic dust into the coolant side? The cooling system was pressure tested at two shops and did not lose pressure, yet it has intermix. Oil cooler was replaced at a shop and didn't fix it. The cooling system in a 986 can hold a lot of residual - did they really get it all flushed out after replacing the cooler? You can always hope for the best, but I expect that was considered. How much intermix and how quick?
Mad Ratel's Boxster S saga: 2002 Boxster S - This is gonna hurt.
A repair: https://rennlist.com/forums/996-forum/503269-intermix-cracked-head-repair.html
From LN Engineering:
Intermix
Intermix can occur when oil gets into the coolant or coolant into the oil. This can be caused by numerous things including, but not limited to, bad engine oil cooler (heat exchanger), blown expansion plugs (there are several in the heads and engine case), cracked cylinder head, cracked cylinder, failed AOS (some models have coolant running through them), or even failure of the steel core rubberized seal that goes between the case halves for the coolant cross-over.
When an engine suffers from from intermix with oil in the coolant, the entire cooling system must be cleaned to eliminate any oil from the coolant hoses or radiators. If a vehicle sits with intermix for an extended period of time, it may be required to change out the coolant hoses (the oil can cause the hoses to get soft and fail) and radiators. If you do need to change the radiators, CSF offers upgraded aluminum radiators that have larger cores and are more efficient, for not all that much more money than factory radiators.
If coolant has made its way into the exhaust system and catalytic converter, pay close attention to the cats as they can be damaged by coolant and intemix.
In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
My email doesn't work well with gmail. I got your reply. Thanks.
I'm getting ready to bang lunchroom trays together and start the "Stampie! Stampie!" chant if this happens.
I talked with the owner. Seems like a nice guy but I could hear his eyes go wide when I mentioned fly and drive. Going to research and think tonight and get back to him tomorrow.
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) said:Located in 'Bay Area' CA. Looks like it's a good clean car to swap engines or repair. Oil in coolant - for a 2000 model I'd expect a cracked head as the cause.
Oh dear, I live pretty close to this now and have a trailer handy.
I need another engine swap project about as much as I need another hole in my head (currently in the middle of 2 projects) but theoretically can this be repaired cost effectively? Last I looked into replacement 3.2s they were $4-6k depending on the sketchiness level of the dismantler. Off to do some research. The link you posted to the cyl head repair is interesting...
Like 7 GRM guys are now going to contact him now with the same "gasket in a can and drive across the country" idea.
In reply to Datsun310Guy :
The seller is aware of GRM. When I asked if he knew of us his response was "I'm not a member there but whenever I need to know the truth about something that's where I look."
In reply to enginenerd :
I looked for a couple months and most good engines were $4k to $5k for a 3.2L. Probably for that money and some engineering you could get a twin turbo Audi V8 running in it. The 2.7L engines are much less $ and will work fine. I got lucky and picked up a non-running '02 986 S for $2,500. The immobilizer harness was cut after rain water and an open window had corroded the immobilizer. The engine turned out good and I plan to swap it into a car with metal in the oil next week. ...then put a 2.7L with a 996 intake and exhaust back in it after I strip it down and clean it up.
Edit: This is an option: https://sites.google.com/view/boxsterv8swap/home
AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) said:In reply to enginenerd :
Edit: This is an option: https://sites.google.com/view/boxsterv8swap/home
This is what I'm going for with one of my Boxsters...
In reply to dan0 :
For some reason I'm in love with the 07K turbo idea.
I just passed on it. I was ready to give it a try but thinking in the shower this morning I was like how would stop leak work if the oil is going to the coolant? The stop leak couldn't get into the crack.
In reply to enginenerd :
I'm going to PM you his contact info. He said to text him first as he doesn't answer numbers he doesn't know.
In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
Oh boy you guys are enablers. It looks like there is some work beyond an "easy" engine fix to make this a nice smog legal CA car. I'm hoping it could be a cyl head repair job but if the bores are trashed I'd like to have a reasonable backup plan. 2.7L might work if it can run off the 3.2L PCM without triggering DTCs as they will check that during smog.
I've followed most of your Boxter threads on here Jon (partly what inspired me to buy my first one that you helped me fix up!) Also have looked into the LS swap kit but any engine swap is going to limited to a track car only out here and I already have one of those I'm working on.
In reply to Stampie :
Got your message Stampie, thanks!
Oil in coolant but not coolant in oil?
Coolant system passes pressure test?
Hmmm. Coolant system pressure normally is 15-20psi. Much of the oil system pressure is more than that (and the rest of the oil system pressure is 0psi-atmopheric). So where is there a break internally between a coolant passage and a pressurized oil passage?
Huge fan of blue devil and have had great success in the past, but I'm skeptical it would work in this case.
In reply to Robbie (Forum Supporter) :
My other thought was they probably did the pressure leak down test when the engine was cold. Running of course the engine would heat up and maybe expand the crack.
I'd agree, would likely be more of an issue at operating temp vs sitting overnight.
I am with Jon on this one - I'm assuming cracked head until proven otherwise. Looking at cyl head repair + diy rebuild costs as well as used parts value as a backup plan. Cylinder damage or even that coolant cross-over seal between case halves sounds like a huge pain.
A 2.7L will run fine on a 3.2L DME. The intake/MAF and fuel system is the same. It will quickly adapt to the engine difference.
I bought a 2000 Boxster S once that had a 2.5L (1997) engine in it. Still a fun car to drive.
I'd give the engine a good check again for the oil cooler o-rings, but expect it to be a waste of time.
I'm pulling a 3.2L engine with suspected rod bearing material in the oil and would be willing to send it or parts of it to anyone on GRM if we can work out shipping.
In reply to AAZCD-Jon (Forum Supporter) :
I know a guy looking for a well running Boxster S. He wants to swap most of it into his 75 Merak. I belive his budget is 8k or so. Do you know of any?
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