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Trackmouse
Trackmouse HalfDork
3/1/16 2:32 p.m.

http://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/videos/a28330/watch-this-racer-overtake-34-other-cars/ My new hero. Also, that rotary exhaust note is hypnotizing. I kinda zoned out there for awhile.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/1/16 3:01 p.m.

Awesome. What a great field. He even passed a Brock Commodore at the end of Conrod (2:38).

oldeskewltoy
oldeskewltoy UltraDork
3/1/16 3:10 p.m.

Wow... I wonder how many guys the blue AE86 (numbered 86)passed.... ???

He just seemed to walk away from the other cars around him...... (1:03-2:15)

Desmond
Desmond HalfDork
3/1/16 3:11 p.m.

That was impressive! Dude has some skills.

Sketchy moments:

5:28 12:28 14:44

boulder_dweeb
boulder_dweeb New Reader
3/1/16 4:25 p.m.

Was he losing the brakes or tires, or both, from 15 minutes on?

GREAT Video!

Rog

Trackmouse
Trackmouse HalfDork
3/2/16 12:49 a.m.

Bathurst is a track I so want to bucket list. Alas, SWMBO is not fond of the land of OZ...

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/2/16 9:18 a.m.

It's also pretty hard to get on to, I think. It's a street circuit, so it's like wanting to drive Monaco or Le Mans.

kb58
kb58 Dork
3/2/16 1:34 p.m.

We have a wealthy part of town here in San Diego that sure resembles that, with both the Eucalyptus trees and the twisty road up and down the hillside. Could probably do a street circuit race there as well, at around 2am, for a few minutes at least...

Nick (LUCAS) Comstock
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock UltimaDork
3/2/16 1:53 p.m.
Keith Tanner wrote: It's also pretty hard to get on to, I think. It's a street circuit, so it's like wanting to drive Monaco or Le Mans.

Isn't it a park? I'm pretty sure you can drive all the way around it, just with a very low speed limit.

Son_Of_Toyman
Son_Of_Toyman New Reader
3/2/16 4:29 p.m.

Definitely a great video. That man has some skill.

In reply to Trackmouse: I definitely zoned out to the sound of the rotary. First thing Toyman said was that is a rotary.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/2/16 5:14 p.m.
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock wrote:
Keith Tanner wrote: It's also pretty hard to get on to, I think. It's a street circuit, so it's like wanting to drive Monaco or Le Mans.
Isn't it a park? I'm pretty sure you can drive all the way around it, just with a very low speed limit.

Oh, you can drive it. Just like Monaco or Le Mans. But I assumed that you'd want to drive a bucket list track at speed, not at 60 kmh.

Looks like it's a little bit more accessible than those two: http://www.mount-panorama.com.au/events/calendar/month.calendar/2016/03/03/-.html

snailmont5oh
snailmont5oh Reader
3/2/16 5:35 p.m.

What kind of transmission is that? It seems to have first gear up and to the right, then 2,3,4,5 in an H-pattern as though it were a four speed.

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/2/16 6:27 p.m.

In reply to snailmont5oh:

dogleg, my 924 has one since it has the Porsche 915 based gearbox.

Several other cars have similar patterns, they are a little better for racing.

rob_lewis
rob_lewis GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
3/2/16 6:45 p.m.
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: In reply to snailmont5oh: dogleg, my 924 has one since it has the Porsche 915 based gearbox. Several other cars have similar patterns, they are a little better for racing.

Better for racing because the design is somehow stronger or because you are rarely in 1st in a race and moving from 5th to 4th in an H-pattern is a shorter distance than moving from 5th to 4th in a common 5-speed?

-Rob

Nick (LUCAS) Comstock
Nick (LUCAS) Comstock UltimaDork
3/2/16 6:48 p.m.

"Hell Corner So named because of the crashes it's seen, Hell corner is the first of 23 bends along the track. It is believed there once was a tree stump at the corner, before the days of barricades, and that motorbike riders who dropped their bikes on the corner would be fatally injured and on his way to Hell."

That paints a vivid mental picture.

Keith Tanner
Keith Tanner GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/2/16 7:21 p.m.

Gotta love the Aussies.

petegossett
petegossett GRM+ Memberand PowerDork
3/2/16 7:43 p.m.

Not ever having been in a rotary-powered car, that sure sounds like a tin-can full of pissed off hornets from the inside...

Desmond
Desmond HalfDork
3/3/16 2:32 a.m.

In reply to petegossett:

Yeah, they sound ok with a proper exhaust. I HATE the straight pipe guys tho. Sounds like a damn airplane.

kevlarcorolla
kevlarcorolla HalfDork
3/3/16 5:49 a.m.

I got bored by the end of the 1st lap and clicked out......guess I was expecting the guy in the elise video.

Ian F
Ian F MegaDork
3/3/16 6:09 a.m.
rob_lewis wrote:
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: In reply to snailmont5oh: dogleg, my 924 has one since it has the Porsche 915 based gearbox. Several other cars have similar patterns, they are a little better for racing.
Better for racing because the design is somehow stronger or because you are rarely in 1st in a race and moving from 5th to 4th in an H-pattern is a shorter distance than moving from 5th to 4th in a common 5-speed? -Rob

Essentially - yes. In every car I've seen, the pattern looks like this:

R 2 4
| - | - |
1 3 5

...with R needing a push or lift and being a bit to the left. I've sometimes seen it referred to it as a "Euro-pattern" as well. Oddly enough, the first car I ever attempted to drive stick in - my father's '78 Datsun F10 - had this pattern. Trying to get that 1-2 shift was a bitch. Other notable street cars with this pattern are the M-B 16V 190 and some Euro versions of the E30 M3. Other than the Benz, the F10 and the aforementioned Porsche models, I'm not sure of any other US-market cars that used it.

I'll have to watch the video when I get home tonight. I do love a good in-car camera pass-fest.

rslifkin
rslifkin Reader
3/3/16 7:38 a.m.

99+ F250/350 superduties with the 6 speed are dog-leg as well. It leaves your 4 most used gears in an H pattern with the granny low and the empty-truck cruising gear outside the pattern (and makes reverse / granny low shifting really easy for maneuvering trailers). Trans is marked as:

R 1 3 5

| - | - |

L 2 4

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 12:29 p.m.
snailmont5oh wrote: What kind of transmission is that? It seems to have first gear up and to the right, then 2,3,4,5 in an H-pattern as though it were a four speed.

Sounds like a sport gearkit in a stock box. 1st is more for convenience in maneuvering than a racing gear, so it goes up where 5th normally is. You see this a lot in rally footage in old Toyotas and Ladas.

Stefan (Not Bruce)
Stefan (Not Bruce) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 12:51 p.m.
Ian F wrote:
rob_lewis wrote:
Stefan (Not Bruce) wrote: In reply to snailmont5oh: dogleg, my 924 has one since it has the Porsche 915 based gearbox. Several other cars have similar patterns, they are a little better for racing.
Better for racing because the design is somehow stronger or because you are rarely in 1st in a race and moving from 5th to 4th in an H-pattern is a shorter distance than moving from 5th to 4th in a common 5-speed? -Rob
Essentially - yes. In every car I've seen, the pattern looks like this: R 2 4 | - | - | 1 3 5 ...with R needing a push or lift and being a bit to the left. I've sometimes seen it referred to it as a "Euro-pattern" as well. Oddly enough, the first car I ever attempted to drive stick in - my father's '78 Datsun F10 - had this pattern. Trying to get that 1-2 shift was a bitch. Other notable street cars with this pattern are the M-B 16V 190 and some Euro versions of the E30 M3. Other than the Benz, the F10 and the aforementioned Porsche models, I'm not sure of any other US-market cars that used it. I'll have to watch the video when I get home tonight. I do love a good in-car camera pass-fest.

Dad's old 77 200SX had a dogleg 5-speed. So it definitely was a Datsun thing.

mad_machine
mad_machine GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 12:57 p.m.

I had a 914 with a "dog leg" box.. The 901 transmission. I also used to drive several commercial trucks with similar set ups. Only ever used "1st" when full and heavy or when stuck on the Crossbronx at rushhour

Knurled
Knurled GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
3/3/16 6:21 p.m.

This isn't a dogleg very much... this is replacing 5th with 1st.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kiWnTKGX5s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=164Oi0TW7y8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHivxfitKzQ (Lada!)

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