carguy66
carguy66
4/9/10 9:13 a.m.

Hello everyone!

I just regestered for the forums after being a reader for many months. I have seen some discussion on here about the pros and cons of the P71 Fords. I love big cars and want to get my feet wet in AutoX or possibly even RallyX. My main goal is to develop some driving skill before I go spending a ton of money prepping a car. I know there are better platforms out there, but I keeping coming across great deals on these cars. ( $200-$600 for running/ driving V-8 cars). So what I am asking is do these cars hold much promise in either category. I have found that there are some 9C1 Chevys in the local junkyards that could donate some nice sway bars and heavy springs.Thanks for the opinions.

Travis_K
Travis_K Dork
4/9/10 10:24 a.m.

I drove a roadmaster once and it didnt seem like a performance car to me, really heavy and soft, and the worst steering feel of any car i have driven. But, lots of people do track them, so with some suspension upgrades and doing something about the steering it would probably be alot better.

Bobzilla
Bobzilla Dork
4/9/10 12:17 p.m.

Start with a 9C1. If you like the box, look for 89-90 9C1's. Thanks to the short trackers there are sway bars and springs galore. If you like the bubbles look for a 94-96 9C1. LT1 engines are easy to make big power, and most of the same suspension from the earlier cars swaps over as well.

PErsonally, I want an 89 9C1, LQ4, T-56, gutted, caged and fulls sspension work for a track day behemoth..... but that's just me.

AutoXR
AutoXR Reader
4/9/10 12:27 p.m.

yes they are soft stock , Ours runs 9c1 springs chopped 1 coil , 9c1 steering box and a few other goodies (285 Pilot sports).

It had no problem running away from my moms 95 5.0L mustang and for what it is , it handles really well.

makes a good tow car too. Ours served us well on the way to the $2008 challenge

GTwannaB
GTwannaB GRM+ Memberand New Reader
4/9/10 12:57 p.m.

There was a couple of guys near Chicago who ran Impala SS's that were ridiculously fast around the autocross track. They ran at Salt Creek Sports Car club events in E-Street prepared.

ClemSparks
ClemSparks SuperDork
4/9/10 1:26 p.m.

I totally want to find an old two-door B body (which, by definition, would be a "box") and outfit it with niner-charlie-one stuff. I think I could talk my buddy out of his 9C1 spec parts on the field car. Yeah!

The problem is finding a B-body with more steel than Iron Oxide these days.

Clem

Lugnut
Lugnut HalfDork
4/9/10 3:38 p.m.

I am on my 4th Roadmaster right now, a '96 LT1 sedan. I adore it. I have been enjoying it way, way more than my P71. Plenty of torque, just a few bucks away from better-than-Impala-SS suspension... I have SS wheels with Sumi HTRZ3s right now on a stock FE1 suspension. I have much more grip than handling, if you know what I mean.

patgizz
patgizz GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/9/10 3:43 p.m.

i had on my 78 cadillac deville everything impala SS - springs, sway bars, 3.08 posi with disc brakes, wheels. it could take turns like no giant cadillac should.

Nitroracer
Nitroracer Dork
4/9/10 10:49 p.m.

After owning and playing with some 'box' era panther cars the opportunities with the chevy b-bodies look so much brighter. They actually made some performance minded parts for them (SS) and had the extra displacement a car of that size really needs. If the b-bodies are like panthers, the parts are cheap and quite durable too.

I particularly like this manual swapped, hydroboosted, 77 coupe. http://www.pro-touring.com/forum/showthread.php?t=50698

Appleseed
Appleseed SuperDork
4/10/10 1:40 a.m.

That car is SOOOO right. Definite NASCAR vibe without all the stigma that usually goes with it.

carguy66
carguy66 New Reader
4/10/10 8:24 a.m.

Those are some pretty nice examples. I have been holding out for a 2 door Pontiac of late 70's vintage for a 455 swap.

The one car in particular that prompted me to ask the question was a 77 Buick Lesabre that a neighbor has. It a 403 Olds powered car with 400TH trans and a 8.5 corporate rear. I can buy this car for $350. I know the Olds 403 arent powerhouses, but at 175hp and over 300tq that could be a fun beater. A rev limiter would almost be a must to keep the block intact.

The body is a little rough with various dents and creases on every panel. This is why I asked about rallycross. I know it would never be competitive, but might be a lot of fun for little cash.

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