thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/5/09 2:42 a.m.

http://www.race-dezert.com/cgi-bin/trader/atl.cgi?ct=14&md=second&id=5012

Is it wrong that I like this? I'd like to buy and put some old camper shell on the back to hide the bedcage and not paint it.

2002maniac
2002maniac Reader
6/5/09 5:01 a.m.

that's awesome.

foxtrapper
foxtrapper SuperDork
6/5/09 5:06 a.m.

That really is a sleeper. Put a fiberglass tailgate and tonnoe cover on it to finish the deception.

Tommy Suddard
Tommy Suddard GRM+ Memberand SonDork
6/5/09 5:10 a.m.

Me likey.

Xceler8x
Xceler8x GRM+ Memberand Dork
6/5/09 9:08 a.m.

GRM goes to BAJA! I call dibs on the driver's seat. You guys can be my crew. No beers until the race starts.

Hal
Hal HalfDork
6/5/09 9:56 a.m.

If that was on the other side of the country I would buy it. I know where there is a cap for it that I could get for free and taligates aren't had to find.

thatsnowinnebago
thatsnowinnebago GRM+ Memberand HalfDork
6/5/09 9:39 p.m.

It kills me to look at that ad. The truck is less than 2 hours from me but I'm poor and already own two cars

driver109x
driver109x Reader
6/7/09 6:54 p.m.

I used to be into prerunners. That's an cool truck. I used to live in that area. Now I moved about 45 mins. away.

neon4891
neon4891 SuperDork
6/7/09 10:42 p.m.

On a side note, Pre runner is a term for 2WD off roading, or some thing to that nature, Correct?

HappyAndy
HappyAndy Reader
6/7/09 11:26 p.m.
neon4891 wrote: On a side note, Pre runner is a term for 2WD off roading, or some thing to that nature, Correct?

By that definition this truck qualifies, but I don't think that a prerunner has to be a 2x4. A pre-runner is a quasi street legal truck used by off-road racing teams to scout out a course before the race. "Pre-Running" In the Baja 1000 documentry "dust to glory" there is some great footage of Mario Andretti test driving a supposedly road legal prerunner (possibly Robby Gordons?). He sure didn't look like a guy who had "never driven an Off-Roader" when he took the first turn on pavement on three wheels!

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter HalfDork
6/7/09 11:42 p.m.

I've always understood a PreRunner to very specifically be a 2WD truck. You could get a PreRunner Tacoma and Ranger from the factory, outward appearance is the same as a 4x4 (increased ride height, tires, etc), but they were always RWD trucks.

My understanding is that 4WD is as much a liability in the sand as it is a benefit (all the extra weight).

Ian F
Ian F HalfDork
6/8/09 11:21 a.m.

From what I remember from my teenage days reading off road rags, a pre-runner could be either... IIRC, Toyota offered the Pre-Runner package on both 2WD and 4WD models. It was as much an appearance and skid-plate upgrade as anything else.

Downey Off-Road used to sell some cool stuff for building pre-runners out of mid-80's to early-90's 2WD Toyotas (bolt-on suspension upgrades vs. the fabbed stuff like on this Ford).

I often dreamed of building a pre-runner out of my '86 Toyota... but here in the Northeast, there's not much use for such a truck other than for looks. The 4x4 trails around are more of the slow, rock-crawling variety. Not that the suspension travel wouldn't be welcome, but at much lower speeds the needs are different.

Cool truck... tho... and for $4900, seems like a good deal.

alfadriver
alfadriver HalfDork
6/8/09 11:38 a.m.
ReverendDexter wrote: I've always understood a PreRunner to very specifically be a 2WD truck. You could get a PreRunner Tacoma and Ranger from the factory, outward appearance is the same as a 4x4 (increased ride height, tires, etc), but they were always RWD trucks. My understanding is that 4WD is as much a liability in the sand as it is a benefit (all the extra weight).

One of my favorite of favorite work trips was to support a Trophy Truck team. Man, that was amazing.

I asked a lot of questions- live axle, 4x4 etc.

The live axle- basically that's used as independant with equal wheel travel would be very difficult to make- CV joints for a 42" travel is not easy.

4x4 was similar, but it was also about weight and complexity vs. any actual improvement. Front had 48" of travel!

To watch this truck glide over a 3' washboard was just amazing. Wheels bouncing up and down furiously, while the body just kind of floated- all at 100mph. And to see it fly over a 15' jump, land, and NOT bounce.

They won Baja before. Actually, they won the Baja 2000 race. Loved watching Dust to Glory!!!

Best business trip EVER!!!!!!!

Eric

pete240z
pete240z Dork
6/8/09 11:56 a.m.

something to drive around town and act like a mad man. jump curbs at your local shopping mall....

ReverendDexter
ReverendDexter HalfDork
6/8/09 12:07 p.m.
pete240z wrote: something to drive around town and act like a mad man. jump curbs at your local shopping mall....

Pshaw, you don't need this truck to do that... I do it all the time in my stock Bronco!

MitchellC
MitchellC HalfDork
6/8/09 12:42 p.m.

But at 100 mph?

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