Anybody else think we need a GRM tv show?

So I was doing my usual Sat. morning routine, cruising CL/Ebay and watching Speed and Powerblock and had an epiphany, these shows pretty much blow. I mean how many muscle cars/SBC engine builds/ads for useless products do we need?

Now I like cool cars as much as the next guy and seeing them is all good, but all the shows are the same. Fully stocked shops, budgets that will take the average person 3 years to pay for, and the obligatory shout out for Zeemax, Zymax, Zican, or whatever the snake-oil that Carrol Shelby is pimpn'. I can see a lot of that stuff at any local car show.

I want to see how to chose a car for Rallycross and what mods will make it best while being cheap. I wanna see what are the best R-compounds for a Miata on the auto-x course. I wanna see how to do a string alignment at home while swiggn' beer at 11 0'clock at night before a race day. I wanna see what it takes to start racing in SCCA/NASA. I wanna see the Mitty, Mazdafest, or a Lemons race.

Basically I wanna see a TV show like the mag.

If there can be a show based on lo-riders (Living the Low Life), then why can't there be a show about real guys and their real cars? I will concede though that Vida Guerrea (sp?) is HOT!! and a GRM style show will probably have a hard time pulling a chick of that caliber..... especially if you make her help pull a motor or change pads.

So how about it Tim/Margie/David/Per? Ya'll up for it?

HELL YEAH!!!

GRM TV YouTube channel or somesuch and then see how many people are actually watching?

No. Usually the TV shows seem to be geared to the lowest common denominator - so that non-car people enjoy them too. I like GRM because it assumes that we, the readers, are real hands-on car people and don't need the information to be spoon-fed to us.

I despise the shows in which they build hot rods with all sorts of fake drama and tool throwing, etc.

All that said, a nice once-a-year special to cover the $200X Challenge would be awesome for those of us who miss it.

Tim & Margie are barely here now, toss in a TV show and when Tim comes home, Tommy's like "Mom, that man's here again!"

I agree with all of the above, it would get watered down, dumbed down and commercialized.

Definately not GRM.

My $.02

Edit in: Now a Challenge oriented guest spot on Top Gear would make my belly button pucker and unpucker for days!

Maybe an annual special, but not a regular show.

I have the producers, directors, etc. all lined up. I have friends and kids in the biz.

I've talked to them about it before.

The simplest way is to do it as a reality show. Or reality segments. That's easier on cast and crew. It's the least intrusive and you edit down to the form you want in the comfort of the studio.

I literally can make a call anytime you want to the people who have done many a primetime network show you've watched.

I have the producers, directors, etc. all lined up. I have friends and kids in the biz.

I've talked to them about it before.

The simplest way is to do it as a reality show. Or reality segments. That's easier on cast and crew. It's the least intrusive and you edit down to the form you want in the comfort of the studio.

I literally can make a call anytime you want to the people who have done many a primetime network show you've watched.

When I was getting expensive cable there was a "tunners" show. they did an adjustable suspention install on a civic. The took it to a local autocross and ran the on full soft. they "driver" (as in puck as kid) said it was too soft. So they put them all on "4". the "driver" then said what a HUGE difference it made!!!.

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BoxheadTim wrote: GRM TV YouTube channel or somesuch and then see how many people are actually watching?

Your wishes have been answered, even before you wished them!

http://www.youtube.com/user/GRMtv

914Driver wrote: Tim & Margie are barely here now, toss in a TV show and when Tim comes home, Tommy's like "Mom, that man's here again!"

Hey, wait a minute, I'm here! Granted, Tim's up in the Northeast doing Watkins Glen and then the Radford Hunt concours, but the kids will definitely recognize him when he comes home. We drill with photos and flashcards.

Still, yeah... no TV show. Donger need sleep.

Margie

That's why reality tv so much better than a scripted show. The cameras follow the day or the project.

The show's not the big deal, the network is.

GRM is technical and informative. TV is entertainment. GRM is a reference full of specific details that I use as I'm wrenching away. It's not a format that will translate well to TV.

Now, maybe a documentary/reality show following around amateur race car drivers and showing real people doing real things with real cars on a real budget, could make for quality entertainment that might even have wide appeal.

Otherwise, I'll stick to Top Gear. It's unadulterated fantasy land, and great entertainment.

The TV show wouldn't be like the magazine in that you couldn't have all the details unless you had a segment that showed the details of say rebuilding a diff or how to junkyard shop.

TV is an incredibly time-intensive undertaking. Heck, even doing the video production I do for the web takes a substantial investment in time (usually outside of regular work hours) and took a substantial personal financial investment. And most TV shows don't last 25 years.

That said, if we were to do a TV show, it would probably be pretty freakin' awesome, but we simply don't have the resources, and we're pretty good at making magazines already.

You certainly will see more multimedia content, though. I enjoy doing video, and I think as we develop in that area that component will blend more seamlessly with the existing content. Exactly how I'm not sure, but it's an area that we think we can use to add to the relevance of the existing stuff we do.

jg

Keep doing what you do.

I am always using SAAB as an example of fine engineering; kept the same design just perfected it year after year. Unlike GM-Ford-Chrysler that remake a car every year, SAAB refined a good design. Same goofy body, better guts.

Keep your design, you've got good guts.

Dan

Just keep Tanner Faust far away from it.

The folks on the board should have their own show.

We just need some friends to take video of us doing our salvage yard or upgrade work and post up the link from YouTube.

It could be that simple.

Just have everyone wear a set of these, and find a volunteer to edit the results into a "show" every now and then...

Are you the guy I see with those hanging around the locker room?

if anyone near chi-town wants to do something really cheap for a youtube thing i have the cmara and some time, no editing skills at all, but could do something really, really cheap like the junky yard shoping though.... or doing the string alioment for the car....