anyone bought an ecoboost Fiesta yet (non ST)?

Test drive one today and I think it might replace the insight sometime soon. Dynos are showing these at over 130 whp, that's right. Wheel hp!

Ew.

I wish I waited for one. Instead I have the 1.6l.

We are having a tech fair right now, and one of the displays is about the 1.0l- that engine is TINY.

I had a Fiat 500 for a rental for 7 days recently. The next week (this one) I have a Fiesta. I would buy 10 Fiestas before I'd ever consider buying a Fiat 500. Perhaps they are not direct comparisons since one is a 2 door and one is a 4 door, but the Fiesta is nice. My only issue is how terrible to auto is when it is in S mode. I'm not sure if that is supposed to mean sport, but it shifts so slowly that it is just not worth messing with it, better to just leave it in drive. I have a long list of all the things I hated on the Fiat and was sorry I took it from the rental place over the Hyundai Accent. I only chose it because I had rented that very same Accent at least two other times.

I could see trading in my WRX for a Fiesta, and I've never even driven the ecoboost or ST version. Again, not the same category of cars, but since I mostly just need a car to go back and forth to the airport and run errands and I have the Miiata and Mini for fun cars, I think a Fiesta would be just fine in the place of the WRX for what I need.

We HAD a 2012 Focus with that auto. It is terrible, hence had. I liked the car otherwise.

Ford seems to be testing the waters on the 1.0 ecoboost. Available in only one model with limited options. For those I have herd on the Fiesta site, every one loves it. Best loved feature other than fuel mileage is the low rpm torque, which the 1.6 sorely lacks.

I'm curious as to what mileage they are getting. Fuelly shows 6.4L/100km vs 7.0ish for the 1.6. Not a huge difference there, but not nothing either.

Hoping to replace the Civic Hybrid with another car that gets close to the 5.8 it gets. One that isn't dangerously slow would be nice too.

I feel your pain since I drive a 1st gen Insight. Talk about slow. I have dreams of putting a K series in it but realistically, that will never happen.

In Europe, there are tunes netting over 150 hp without affecting MPGs.

http://www.greencarreports.com/news/1092606_2014-ford-fiesta-ecoboost-gas-mileage-test-returns-40-mpg

Coincidentally, there is a ~130 whp turbo insight dyno on LESS boost than the Fiesta dynos, if you care to turbo the insight.

I am waiting to see the track times to back up these dynos. A 130whp 2500 lb car should be DEEP into the 15s which is 'noticeably quick', but last time i checked none of the reviewers who'd driven it made any note of it actually being quicker than expected.. time to check again.

16s @ 83? Yeah, not adding up somehow.

The 130 whp WAS on a Mustang Dyno so maybe it is more like 120 whp. Still not bad. It was MUCH easier to drive than my Mazda2 however. Don't forget about those lovely low rolling resistance tires.

On the Insight, I would be happy to if you want to help me tune and fabricate the damn thing. I also bet that Insight is using a larger turbo. The Fiesta had no noticeable lag.

I'd love to put the CRZ blower on the Civic, but I imagine the CVT would vacate the premises the first time I hit the gas. Turbo 1st gen insight could be amazing. Or....stay with me here. 1.0 ECOBoost 1st gen Insight! BAM.

This is the motor I wanted in the first gen Mazda2. I wonder is they electronically strangle this motor like they do in the FiST? If you've driven a FiST you know there are some serious electronic shenanigans going on in the lower gears. If they applied that to the 1.0, your HP vs 1/4 times could be odd.

Vigo wrote: I am waiting to see the track times to back up these dynos. A 130whp 2500 lb car should be DEEP into the 15s which is 'noticeably quick', but last time i checked none of the reviewers who'd driven it made any note of it actually being quicker than expected.. time to check again.

Why would anyone expect track numbers for the 1.0l? It's a fuel economy option. Most of the buyers of this car are trying to get milage over speed.

I guess someone will, but if one was really interested in peformance, the ST is so much a better option that it's not even funny.

When I was buying the 1.0 was a $900 option, but the ST was $2000. One is better fuel economy with similar power, the other is big power improvement without too much of fuel economy drop off.

I guess it's interesting to me that people put so much into the performance of the fuel economy car when there's a performance version of the same car.

Doesnt matter what stat you are looking at, people want the truth.

Let's say it's an economy car. Ok. How many times has Ford had to change its line on the C-max mpg? Also looks like the C-max is faster than the 1.0 and gets worse highway mileage, which is kind of ironic given their 'assigned roles'.

Almost anyone who buys a NEW car is doing it for objectively stupid/foolish reasons. I wouldnt spend too long trying to fathom the reasoning of people buying 1.0 vs ST. If new car buying were based entirely on reason and fact it would look MUCH different.

Hmm - one of those in an old British sports car would work mighty fine. Or for the innovative, a couple of them in line for a 2 litre straight 6 with 300 bhp or so (take that, GT6 owners!)

I would consider a new car like this. It is as cheap as my used options and will likely not get tons cheaper when on the used lot for a least a few years.

A 1.0 with FRPP suspension would be quite nice. Would keep the warranty and have lower insurance too I imagine. ST up north is a much larger premium. ST is $24 599 + freight/tax. 1.0 is $17 499. Somebody needs to make a 1.0 fender badge to look like the old 5.0 Mustang badge.

The 1.0 is only available with a 5 speed...nice!

T.J. wrote: I had a Fiat 500 for a rental for 7 days recently. The next week (this one) I have a Fiesta. I would buy 10 Fiestas before I'd ever consider buying a Fiat 500. Perhaps they are not direct comparisons since one is a sub 'B' class car the same as the European Ford KA and hence in a smaller class than the larger B class Fiesta but the Fiesta is bigger, better, more refined car and hence nicer in every way

Fixed it for you

Vigo wrote: Doesnt matter what stat you are looking at, people want the truth. Let's say it's an economy car. Ok. How many times has Ford had to change its line on the C-max mpg? Also looks like the C-max is faster than the 1.0 and gets worse highway mileage, which is kind of ironic given their 'assigned roles'. Almost anyone who buys a NEW car is doing it for objectively stupid/foolish reasons. I wouldnt spend too long trying to fathom the reasoning of people buying 1.0 vs ST. If new car buying were based entirely on reason and fact it would look MUCH different.

Ok, I see what you are asking- is the tune real or not. Not that you are expecting that owners will start showing up on the track with 1.0l Fiestas.

Not sure how the C-Max ratings factor into this or not. That the bigger and heavier C-Max gets worse highway mileage isnt a surprise to me. The highway part is less aboout the advantage of hybrid and more about weight and drag anyway.

I could not understand why anyone would expect to see a 1.0l Fiesta at the track, ever.

Yeah, my only interest in track times is as evidence for/against the hp numbers people are claiming. I think most of the 'enthusiast' interest in the 1.0 option is on the premise that it's not super slow and boring to drive (which everyone seems to agree the 1.6 n/a is).

I'm all for people wanting cars with exceptional mpg and a modicum of turbo-powered entertainment vs exceptional turbo power and a modicum of mpg. But i think the 'hype' about the 1.0 being underrated from the factory has very little evidence in favor and a relatively large amount of evidence against it.

In reply to Vigo:

I'd like to drive the 1.0. The 1.6 is slow relatively, but only if I'm not following anyone. If I'm behind someone getting on the freeway- it's just as fast as the driver I'm following. (worse if the ramp isn't stright- they seem to think that 30mph is just fine, thank you, when we need to merge to 70 ). It actually confirmed to me that the Miata is WAY too much performance for my commute.

Which is to say- it's slow if you are racing, it's fine if you are just driving it.

even Pumaspeeds 170hp 1.0 ecoboost Fiesta runs a 15.7 in the 1/4 mile, it is 100% with the transmission gearing being geared for efficiency. The 6 speed manual in the up coming 1.0 focus should help with performance.