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JFX001
JFX001 UberDork
12/9/14 3:36 p.m.

IIRC, Saleen was able to get mid 15's with the supercharged XP8. You could turn up the boosts.

I do like the idea of a GRM Landy though...especially the Bobtail idea these guys have:

https://youtube.com/user/TwentyTenEngineering

pimpm3
pimpm3 HalfDork
12/9/14 6:44 p.m.

Easy take a crashed Camaro with ls1, and a xj which we already know can be made to handle and put them together. Novakengineering even makes everything to bolt the swap in.

Add some sound deadening and leather seats.... Done!

pimpm3
pimpm3 HalfDork
12/9/14 6:58 p.m.

Crashed 07 up Denali or escalade, take out the 403hp aluminum L92 and 6L80 transmission / transfer case. Stuff in a s10 blazer. Move over typhoon...

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
12/9/14 7:33 p.m.

I second the LS-swapped Land Rover idea. Not sure what can be done for handling with off-the-shelf parts, but off the shelf parts dont tend to play into my car hobby very much anyway.

I love XJs but i wouldnt call them comfortable.

Monteros come with a range of very high-power-proven v6s (the sohc 3.0 has done over 500hp and the dohc 3.5 has done over 1000hp) but im not sure about the handling stuff again, probably mostly have to figure it out yourself.

yupididit
yupididit Reader
12/9/14 8:31 p.m.

My good friend Randy had a montero with a twinturbo 6g74 on MS and boy...that thing was not meant to go fast but it was so fast. It dyno'd over 500hp. It didn't last very long though. The motor took itself out one day.

I think if you built bottomend and got some arp headstuds with a legit headgasket then you could have a reliable superSUV. Ah I miss the MonTurbo

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/9/14 8:47 p.m.

In reply to pimpm3:

Problem is.... I priced all that out because I was thinking a 4.8 for a nice gain but small enough power it would still play nice with my 5spd.

The swap stuff is eye-wateringly expensive.

jstein77
jstein77 SuperDork
12/9/14 9:06 p.m.
pimpm3 wrote: Crashed 07 up Denali or escalade, take out the 403hp aluminum L92 and 6L80 transmission / transfer case. Stuff in a s10 blazer. Move over typhoon...

Should be easy enough to find. They roll like ping pong balls and are driven by people way over their heads.

NGTD
NGTD SuperDork
12/9/14 9:17 p.m.

The OPP and RCMP up here use tons of 2wd Tahoes with the 5.3L and the police package. They routinely show up on the Gov Auction websites for under $5K.

This one is right at $5K for the min bid:

https://www.gcsurplus.ca/mn-eng.cfm?snc=wfsav&sc=enc-bid&scn=177565&lcn=322946&lct=L&srchtype=&lci=&str=1&ltnf=1&frmsr=1&sf=ferm-clos

daeman
daeman New Reader
12/9/14 9:32 p.m.

How about a Nissan patrol gq with a boosted rb30, possibly with a rb25 head. That is assuming patrols are available in the us and prices are similar to what's available here in oz.

Cool forum by the way guys.

ProDarwin
ProDarwin UltraDork
12/9/14 10:46 p.m.
jstein77 wrote: They roll like ping pong balls and are driven by people way over their heads.

The thing is, they are probably WAY more roll resistant than many other cars in this thread.

The DiscoII has a height of 74" and a track of 60". Scary.

With borderline acceptable SSF (height >= track) cars being banned from autox, and others going up/over on 2 wheels on street tires now, I'd be scared E36 M3less putting sticky tires on something tippy like the Disco II or Montero.

dropstep
dropstep Reader
12/9/14 10:51 p.m.

square body s10 blazer, ls/4l80e swap. just not sure how well the transfer case and crap front diff will like the power

Boost_Crazy
Boost_Crazy Reader
12/9/14 11:48 p.m.

Forester XT. Add Sti suspension parts, a bit more power, and you would have a very quick SUV. Autos seem to be cheap and all over the place. The manuals seem to cost a lot more. Maybe something like this with a manual trans swap, still under 5k total...

Subaru Forester

MrJoshua
MrJoshua PowerDork
12/10/14 3:44 p.m.
ProDarwin wrote:
jstein77 wrote: They roll like ping pong balls and are driven by people way over their heads.
The thing is, they are probably WAY more roll resistant than many other cars in this thread. The DiscoII has a height of 74" and a track of 60". Scary. With borderline acceptable SSF (height >= track) cars being banned from autox, and others going up/over on 2 wheels on street tires now, I'd be scared E36 M3less putting sticky tires on something tippy like the Disco II or Montero.

Land Rover actually puts some effort into making their vehicles roll resistant for off roading purposes. I was reasonably impressed by my Disco II' s ability to corner with rear springs instead of bags and later rover wheels/wide tires.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
12/10/14 7:41 p.m.
The motor took itself out one day.

Oh, well as long as it blew ITSELF up then i guess we can all protect our self-image and continue regarding Mitsubishis as unreliable and everything will be grand!

Powar
Powar SuperDork
12/11/14 7:00 a.m.

$5k would buy an awful lot of go-fast bits for the 6.5T in my Suburban, but that's probably opening a can of worms, and that engine will never make streetable modern power reliably. Maybe parting a wrecked Duramax would be the answer... or a 6bt, since the adapters are out there. Couple that with some fresh Bilsteins, big sways, a slight drop. I like where this is going in my head. I wish I didn't.

edizzle89
edizzle89 Reader
12/11/14 7:14 a.m.
dropstep wrote: square body s10 blazer, ls/4l80e swap. just not sure how well the transfer case and crap front diff will like the power

the 4472 awd transfer case from the typhoon/syclone/bravada/astro has been proven to hold a very good amount of power. I cant speak for the front diff though

RossD
RossD PowerDork
12/11/14 7:19 a.m.

Find an old Full Size Jeep Cherokee/Wagoneer/Chief and grab a Hemi drivetrain from a new truck.

skierd
skierd SuperDork
12/11/14 12:31 p.m.

I've had the desire to build a 1st gen CRV with what ever boosted up b-series hybrid you can fit under the hood. B20 vtec with a turbo or even an old Jackson Racing supercharger kit, add suspension, soup.

2002maniac
2002maniac Dork
12/11/14 12:45 p.m.
RossD wrote: Find an old Full Size Jeep Cherokee/Wagoneer/Chief and grab a Hemi drivetrain from a new truck.

A buddy of mine built an old Grand Wagoneer with a 5.3 and 4L60E. Very nice combo, but it wasn't capable performance wise as it was so dang heavy.

mrwillie
mrwillie Dork
12/11/14 3:46 p.m.

+1 on the AWD Explorer + supercharger. The 5.0 sounds amazing and it handled predictively ok in stock form. I can only imagine what a set of bilsteins and some lowering blocks would do for it.

Someone even drove one in the Pikes Peak Hillclimb.

carbon
carbon Dork
12/11/14 8:48 p.m.

3sgte powered early rav4 would be fun.

fanfoy
fanfoy HalfDork
12/11/14 9:06 p.m.

For all the guys suggesting an XJ, why not start with a Grand Cherokee for added comfort? If you can make an XJ handle, you should be able to make a GC handle. Plus some came already equiped with a V8.

Swank Force One
Swank Force One MegaDork
12/11/14 9:12 p.m.

They're way heavier and I don't know if they lower as easily.

The transmissions suck, too. XJ trans will hold power.

Vigo
Vigo PowerDork
12/11/14 9:45 p.m.
With borderline acceptable SSF (height >= track) cars being banned from autox, and others going up/over on 2 wheels on street tires now, I'd be scared E36 M3less putting sticky tires on something tippy like the Disco II or Montero.

I own a Montero ( my 2nd, along with 4 previous cherokees and a Rodeo as far as SUVs) and i agree with that.

Also, on the Grand Cherokee thing im pretty sure they lower more or less identically to XJs (other than rear coils vs leaves) but the trans thing is kind of huge. The dodge trannies can be built to hold a lot of power, but they have to be rebuilt to do it. The AW4 will handle a lot without ever being opened.

PHeller
PHeller PowerDork
12/12/14 8:58 a.m.

Yea I'd probably agree with the Exploder as well, despite knowing and liking XJs, they are easier going up than they are going down.

Giggity.

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