BoostedBrandon
BoostedBrandon SuperDork
4/16/20 11:18 a.m.

Working on the Camaro's fuel pump, and I noticed that the wire leading to the fuel gauge float is broken. The eyelet is still riveted to it, but the wire is broken from there. Can I butt the two together, melt some solder and call it good?

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The gauges don't really work half the time anyway, but it's such a PITA to drop the tank on this car, I don't want to do it twice.

Stampie (FS)
Stampie (FS) GRM+ Memberand UltimaDork
4/16/20 11:31 a.m.

I'd think a butt solder would be too weak.  I'd strip back some wire and using the eyelet as a little cup to hold the solder put the stripped wire on top of the eyelet.

Toyman01 (Forum Supporter)
Toyman01 (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/20 11:54 a.m.

Yes you can, the fuel won't hurt it. As Stampie says, the butt joint won't be very strong and vibration will probably kill it. 

 

 

dean1484
dean1484 GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/16/20 12:16 p.m.

Yes solder is fine with fuel. "Back in the day" that is how we repaired tanks. 
 

For your fix I would remove the male tang from the female  spade connector and then see about possibly cutting the copper on the pump back a little further to get better engagement of the female spade connector. I would then add a little solder to keep it from coming apart. 
 

The thing to be carful of is it looks like there is a insulator/isolator between the housing and the connection on the pump. You don't want to compromise that as it would be like putting a live spark plug in your fuel tank. 

Paul_VR6 (Forum Supporter)
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4/16/20 12:49 p.m.

Doesn't look like there is any good way to mechanically attach it. I would likely solder it flat to the pad, and then pot it in fuel resistant epoxy to hold the wire for strain relief.

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
crankwalk (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand SuperDork
4/16/20 3:45 p.m.

I've soldered many a british motorcycle fuel tanks to fix pinhole leaks. Thats how I was taught to do it and Ive never had a problem as long as everything was clean and dry beforehand. 

alfadriver (Forum Supporter)
alfadriver (Forum Supporter) MegaDork
4/16/20 5:40 p.m.

A good butt crimp connector is better than solder.  That's how every single vehicle's wiring harness is assembled.  

pirate
pirate HalfDork
4/16/20 6:12 p.m.

I would drill the rivet out get another eye type connector connect the wire to the eye connector with a crimp then connect eye connector to sender with a pop rivet of the proper size diameter and grip length.

slantvaliant (Forum Supporter)
slantvaliant (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
4/17/20 7:16 a.m.

I've seen a lot of soldered carburetor and fuel sender level floats.

Wally (Forum Supporter)
Wally (Forum Supporter) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
4/17/20 8:01 a.m.

I have nothing useful to add but I keep reading the title wrong.

crankwalk (Forum Supporter)
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4/17/20 1:30 p.m.
slantvaliant (Forum Supporter) said:

I've seen a lot of soldered carburetor and fuel sender level floats.

Forgot I've done sunk brass floats in carbs too. Plastic ones are so much better now. laugh

porschenut
porschenut Reader
4/17/20 2:18 p.m.

Never trust a connection for both electric and mechanical.  Poorly worded but you get the idea. 

mikeeobrien
mikeeobrien
6/10/22 9:59 a.m.

Doesn't the ethanol eat the lead and tin in the solder?

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/10/22 6:11 p.m.

In reply to mikeeobrien :

No. 

 

I see there is a new ETHANOL OOGABOOGA out there.

AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter)
AnthonyGS (Forum Supporter) UltraDork
6/10/22 6:19 p.m.

Yes the original 90s ZR1s had soldered connections on the dual pump setup.

alfadriver
alfadriver MegaDork
6/10/22 8:31 p.m.
Pete. (l33t FS) said:

In reply to mikeeobrien :

No. 

 

I see there is a new ETHANOL OOGABOOGA out there.

If it did, there would be many angry people with hip flasks

Pete. (l33t FS)
Pete. (l33t FS) GRM+ Memberand MegaDork
6/11/22 8:07 a.m.

In reply to alfadriver :

I was thinking of moonshine stills made with car radiators.

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