Raze wrote: sir, YOU kick ass, afterall, who in their right mind would try to convince their school to let them buy and hot rod a Daewoo with a bunch of kids to engage, teach, and have fun!
this times eleventy bazillion 
Raze wrote: sir, YOU kick ass, afterall, who in their right mind would try to convince their school to let them buy and hot rod a Daewoo with a bunch of kids to engage, teach, and have fun!
this times eleventy bazillion
mndsm wrote: Wait... so if Daewoos are cousins to the much maligned chevy Aveo..... how hard is it for you to get an FI 2.2 ecotec? Rumor has it that's nearly a direct swap, in the same vein as the old b6t/festiva trick.
The Aveo engine is based on the old Opel red top DOHC motors, IIRC, which is not interchangable with the Ecotec.
Here in the US if you want big displacement for cheap in an Aveo you get the 2.0 or 2.2 from a Suzuki Forenza, which is based on the same engine as in the Aveo. I would suspect there might be some Suzukis over there the same way?
A Daewoo? Those kids are going to get a constant crash-course in troubleshooting. Hopefully not the crashing so much.
Raze wrote: 1) gut it (keep whatever is necessary to maintain street legality in Korea) FREE POWER! 2) make it stop (pad upgrade?) 3) make it handle (sway bars, cut springs, spring kit, coilover conversion kit, camber plates, etc...) 4) tires, tires, tires 5) Add power, MegaSquirt, clutch, LSD, i.e. expensive mods, I wouldn't start here just because you have to have alot of other things in place to make it reliable or noticeable. 1-4 are guranteed to help and be budget friendly...
Nothing to do with performance, but the hilariously tacky fake wood accents are also getting pulled and spray painted black. I'll show you pictures when I find a battery charger for my camera.
A cool fun mildly utilitarian idea I had involved buying an extra hood and then cutting big holes in it to both loose weight, make a hood scoop like the one below, and then make another scoop to feed the cold air kit I will certainly install.
Might buy an extra trunk lid too.
2500 lbs, four wheel disks, 105 hp. Do you think it will need help? Pads and slotting the rotors would be cool, and I might do it anyway.
Probably going to cut an inch or so out of the springs. Past that, I guess it will all depend on how good the performance parts stores are in Daejeon. The springs are stiff enough I'll probably experiment with no front swaybar.
Amazingly, it has max performance summer Kuhmos right now.
Homemade cold air, homemade side exit exhaust. Past that, I'll probably wait for the next school year. Oh, and it needs a tuneup. A 2.0L swap would be cool though. And yes, I checked, the 1.6 is exactly the same as the Aveo engine.
Got to say, I don't really understand the Daewoo's terrible reputation. It's not an exceptional car, but it's certainly much better than a Cavalier of similar vintage.
MrBenjamonkey wrote: Don't know much about the 80s J-bodies. How bad a disaster is my little "screamer" likely to be?
The main problem with the SOHC version was cylinder head cracking. Either you had a cracked head, or a new head, or you just haven't cracked it yet. The DOHC head does not seem to be prone to this issue.
There was a turbo version of the engine (165hp Sunbirds!) that apparently dropped right into the "Pontiac LeMans" (Daewoo version of Kadett). This is trivia and completely unhelpful for you, probably.
oldopelguy wrote:mndsm wrote: Wait... so if Daewoos are cousins to the much maligned chevy Aveo..... how hard is it for you to get an FI 2.2 ecotec? Rumor has it that's nearly a direct swap, in the same vein as the old b6t/festiva trick.The Aveo engine is based on the old Opel red top DOHC motors, IIRC, which is not interchangable with the Ecotec. Here in the US if you want big displacement for cheap in an Aveo you get the 2.0 or 2.2 from a Suzuki Forenza, which is based on the same engine as in the Aveo. I would suspect there might be some Suzukis over there the same way?
I haven't seen any Suzukis here ever, actually. But I should be able to find a 2.0L. I think the Korean market Leganza used a 2.0 and I know the Nubira had the 2.0 as an option.
Is the Opel red top a decent motor? I don't know much about them.
Knurled wrote:MrBenjamonkey wrote: Don't know much about the 80s J-bodies. How bad a disaster is my little "screamer" likely to be?The main problem with the SOHC version was cylinder head cracking. Either you had a cracked head, or a new head, or you just haven't cracked it yet. The DOHC head does not seem to be prone to this issue. There was a turbo version of the engine (165hp Sunbirds!) that apparently dropped right into the "Pontiac LeMans" (Daewoo version of Kadett). This is trivia and completely unhelpful for you, probably.
Very helpful. It means this isn't a complete turd of an engine if there were performance versions. I was worried I'd gotten the Korean equivalent of an Iron Duke.
4cylndrfury wrote:Raze wrote: sir, YOU kick ass, afterall, who in their right mind would try to convince their school to let them buy and hot rod a Daewoo with a bunch of kids to engage, teach, and have fun!this times eleventy bazillion
Thanks.
MrBenjamonkey wrote:4cylndrfury wrote:Thanks.Raze wrote: sir, YOU kick ass, afterall, who in their right mind would try to convince their school to let them buy and hot rod a Daewoo with a bunch of kids to engage, teach, and have fun!this times eleventy bazillion
Man, this thing kinda sorta took off, eh? This is absolutely a cool thing you're doing, Bud!
oldopelguy wrote: Here in the US if you want big displacement for cheap in an Aveo you get the 2.0 or 2.2 from a Suzuki Forenza, which is based on the same engine as in the Aveo. I would suspect there might be some Suzukis over there the same way?
Wiki sez Suzuki Forenza : US as Daewoo Lacetti : Korea
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daewoo_Lacetti
Another thing you could do is try and sell some sponsorship on the side of the vehicle to raise funds for further modifications.
RossD wrote: Another thing you could do is try and sell some sponsorship on the side of the vehicle to raise funds for further modifications.
Time to hit the Korean language books again ... or see how much my Korean friends really like me.
MrBenjamonkey wrote:RossD wrote: Another thing you could do is try and sell some sponsorship on the side of the vehicle to raise funds for further modifications.Time to hit the Korean language books again ... or see how much my Korean friends really like me.
Aw. come on!! Surely you're up for a little 'persuasion'...
MrBenjamonkey wrote:Knurled wrote:Very helpful. It means this isn't a complete turd of an engine if there were performance versions. I was worried I'd gotten the Korean equivalent of an Iron Duke.MrBenjamonkey wrote: Don't know much about the 80s J-bodies. How bad a disaster is my little "screamer" likely to be?There was a turbo version of the engine (165hp Sunbirds!) that apparently dropped right into the "Pontiac LeMans" (Daewoo version of Kadett). This is trivia and completely unhelpful for you, probably.
An iron duke would probably be a significant reliability upgrade over that motor. Those Sunbird turbo motors were indeed turds.
Mikey52_1 wrote:MrBenjamonkey wrote:Aw. come on!! Surely you're up for a little 'persuasion'...RossD wrote: Another thing you could do is try and sell some sponsorship on the side of the vehicle to raise funds for further modifications.Time to hit the Korean language books again ... or see how much my Korean friends really like me.
I'll think of something ...
zomby woof wrote: An iron duke would probably be a significant reliability upgrade over that motor.
The horror ...
I thought Iron Dukes were pretty reliable as long as you didnt exceed 5k rpm...
In reply to Knurled: The Co my brother worked for went belly up; father gave him a barely used daewoo station wagon, which has served my brother quite well in north east AZ. BUT, when last we talked he mentioned anoil leak from "around the valve cover/back of block area." Is this where the crack in the head would show up? Don't now if he has the SOHC or DOHC engine. Do you know what model(s) this head problem showed up in? He's just making it financially, so if this is just going to get worse, I'll advise him to dump the car ASAP. Or, is there a fix of some kind? He can pull heads, change major components,... so if it's cracked can it be heli-arced (sp) so it won't fail completely? He starts nursing school in the fall and will need a reliable car.... Thanx.
Vigo wrote: I thought Iron Dukes were pretty reliable as long as you didnt exceed 5k rpm...
they only sound like they're going to blow up.
belteshazzar wrote:Vigo wrote: I thought Iron Dukes were pretty reliable as long as you didnt exceed 5k rpm...they only sound like they're going to blow up.
speaking of engines that sound like they're going to blow up when reved much, ever tried a 3.0L Ford Vulcan? I seriously fear for my life when I rev that engine past 4k...
This won't help you, and its not suitable for work or children. But it makes me giggle every time I hear Daewoo.
Appleseed wrote: This won't help you, and its not suitable for work or children. But it makes me giggle every time I hear Daewoo. You just got killed by a Daewoo Lanos...
Haha, yah, I think I'd get fired for showing that.
Vigo wrote: I thought Iron Dukes were pretty reliable as long as you didnt exceed 5k rpm...
The two I have had experience with blew up when subjected to the rigors of 4k rpm. I hate Iron Dukes.
Raze wrote:belteshazzar wrote:speaking of engines that sound like they're going to blow up when reved much, ever tried a 3.0L Ford Vulcan? I seriously fear for my life when I rev that engine past 4k...Vigo wrote: I thought Iron Dukes were pretty reliable as long as you didnt exceed 5k rpm...they only sound like they're going to blow up.
Do you refer to the fierce vibrations or the sound that can only be described as a combination of valve float and Satan's vacuum cleaner?
triumph5 wrote: In reply to Knurled: The Co my brother worked for went belly up; father gave him a barely used daewoo station wagon, which has served my brother quite well in north east AZ. BUT, when last we talked he mentioned anoil leak from "around the valve cover/back of block area." Is this where the crack in the head would show up? Don't now if he has the SOHC or DOHC engine. Do you know what model(s) this head problem showed up in? He's just making it financially, so if this is just going to get worse, I'll advise him to dump the car ASAP. Or, is there a fix of some kind? He can pull heads, change major components,... so if it's cracked can it be heli-arced (sp) so it won't fail completely? He starts nursing school in the fall and will need a reliable car.... Thanx.
Does he have a 1.6 or 2.0? If so, those are DOHC. I don't know if they sold them in the US, but Daewoo also made a 1.5 SOHC. Just look under the hood.
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